B&B: December 2024 Discussion Thread

[Maxim]

Shockingly well... Her and KKL have been getting some really cringe dialogue lately. I find myself thinking, God, these women have some serious patience and professionalism in... trying to deliver this drivel in the best way possible. 

[Soapsuds]

The awful writing and Annika acting choices make Hope look very unhinged.

I expect her to start killing people very soon just like Luna.

Kim Mutula left the show because of the awful writing. She had enough of how weak Hope was written and endless triangle with Steffy and Liam. 

[edgeofnik]

@Maxim 100% on all your points. The only saving grace is that KKL/AN both have the ability to take really bad material and make it almost compelling. KKL has actually been excellent since the reveal - instead of histrionics - by playing it absolutely cool and levelheaded has really been a refreshing change for Brooke. Otherwise, everything else is terribly subpar - even on a B&B scale.

Maybe it's me, but the character destruction of Carter is eerily similar to what happen to Maya. Both characters had been empty shells just lingering. When KM finally got a shot to be a leading lady - ironically, scheming with Rick's takeover of FC - Myron was created on the character was done.

LSV is finally gets his shot at being a leading man - surprise - trying to takeover FC - Carter has lost his moral compass, legal ethics and integrity. Seriously, after 10 years at being at FC, *now* Carter championing for the so-called Logan underdogs. Gross and a complete waste.

I can save Carter.

Brooke: 'Carter, if I really wanted FC, I know how to get it myself. The reality is that poor Widge needs to feel like an Alpha instead of a dressmaker. You know that $B/Stallion inferiority complex. If you want to know *how* I'll get FC back instantly, meet me in the steam room.' 

As the *victim* of a Brooke scandal, all the above will be forgotten and Carter will go back to his office, except for B&B weddings.

[Taoboi]

It's not just you. I believe a few people were wondering about that as soon as Carter got a focus because of how things happened with Maya. 

[Maxim]

I'll take any Brooke scandal at this point. Any. I'm starved...  I haven't heard her say I made a mistake in literally years. What dark times we live in.

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[1974mdp]

LSV has been criminally underused for YEARS. His best material was the initial material with the affair with Quinn. Those two had serious chemistry. But, as the show does, they screwed it up.

The problem with this story is that it...as most stories on this show...came out of left field with no buildup. When did Carter fall for Hope actually? So many beats were skipped in the story, and now, where do they take Carter from him. A better story IMO would have been if Hope and Carter said screw FC and started their own rival fashion house. The show has been missing that aspect...of having an underdog...since the Spectras died out many years ago.

[Taoboi]

Very much so. And as proven with him with Quinn, Carter can be a leading man and LSV can play it.

 

But this? I agree. So many missing beats. The most glaring being he and Katie did not even break up on screen. If anything, they should have focused on Bill/Katie/Carter. Perhaps Carter seeing post-Luna, Katie's pull to Bill was just too strong and they have an amiable break up. Meanwhile, Hope is still adrift due to Thomas. A few talks like what Hope and Carter had a few months ago over being losers in love and a spark starts. 

 

Yep. There should always be an underdog fashion house on this show. 

[ranger1rg]

-- Another bad thing in the Carter/Hope story is how stupid they are to think that contract -- and getting Ridge to sign it -- would be enough to take over the entire damn company. I mean, that's a joke.

-- So Il Giardino takes reservations? At lunch, no less?

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After Sheila acted perplexed and lost about the reservation and Will and Electra not having one, she gave them a table not even three feet away from them. I was howling,

 

[edgeofnik]

Today's show was actually balanced - it helped throwing in Katie/Sheila even as side characters.

I didn't not expect Steffy to barge in and read Hope. That was worth it.

[Soapsuds]

It was, and it continues tomorrow.

 

I'm surprised Ridge hasn't filed charges against Carter for fraud.

 

[edgeofnik]

@Soapsuds 

This begs the question: Did Carter actually file the paperwork before Justin got involved? I doubt it. The easiest short-term solution would've been for Justin to replicate the LLC filing, had Ridge and Steffy sign it/date it and file it immediately. Since Justin's new paperwork is dated later, it would provide a stronger defense that Carter's old paperwork was superseded by Justin's filing.

On the other hand, there's no drama if Carter's paperwork is invalid.

You just know they have to show Carter and Hope *playing the p*rn sax' in Ridge/Steffy office at least once!

[Faulkner]

Hope at least got some digs in, but I’ve seen too many conversations where she’s had to stand there and take Steffy’s vitriol when I’ve tuned in. Even La Stephanie had people clap back.

[Soapsuds]

@edgeofnik

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Remy, Aussie girl and Nick Newman Jr. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[ranger1rg]

It's bad, and no way would that girl talk this much about Remy to Will.

[Maxim]

Carter to Hope.

I love you, Hope. I really do. I am deeply in love with you.

Who talks like that? Reminds me of Taylor presenting herself on the phone as - Hello, Steffy, it's me... Taylor Hayes, your mother.

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Since Bradley Bell doesn't invest even a second in this destined to be love, other than cheesy kissing and naked scenes for small ratings boosts, and we have not seen an ounce of build up to this Titanic-fast love affair... he is making the characters repeat this to ad nauseum.

Hope - I love you Carter. 

Carter - I am deeply in love with you, Hope!

And the more they repeat it, the less convincing it sounds.

Clown show.