DAYS: December 2024 Discussion Thread

[Liberty City]

When Diana left, in watching her exit, there was this look on her face that made me believe she "switched" into a more conniving personality.

[Contessa Donatella]

So, I looked up "George Hazard", Ron's being clever. For me, though, it would have resonated with me if he'd used a reference from CHARMED, not reaching all the way back to the mini-series NORTH AND SOUTH. Although, it's true, CHARMED also was a long time ago. 

[carolineg]

Sure, I can buy that.  A shady, scheming, con woman is one thing.  An abusive, murdering POS who tortured her son because he exists is another.   Diana as a grey character is fine.  I even believe she might try to swindle John for money.  The OTT mess we have as Diana currently is not believable.  Could you imagine Genie playing any of this?

[Contessa Donatella]

Currently I cannot stand Judith Chapman either here as Diana or on Y&R as Gloria. Both characters are way way ott without any nuance at all. Genie wouldn't be caught dead in this role, today I mean. Her whole point on DAYS is to prop Leo Stark. It hasn't worked so far & I don't see it working in the future, either.

Previously I did not judge Judith Chapman negatively at all. I realize it's not her doing. It's the writing. But either way it stinks to high heaven.

[janea4old]

Random coincidence that two conversations on this page tie together.   Yes James Read played George Hazzard on North and South.  Genie Francis played his sister-in-law in that series.  Jonathan Frakes played Read's brother and Genie's husband, and then Jonathan and Genie married in real life.

Edited December 10, 2024 by janea4old

[Contessa Donatella]

Isn't that where she met her husband? (Apropos of nothing, really, sorry, got carried away.)

[janea4old]

Genie and Jonathan met on Bare Essence but worked more closely on North and South and their marriage resulted from that.  (and yes I got carried away, too)

[Contessa Donatella]

I was a huge fan of the mini-series when it first came out. Loved Sho-Gun, Thorn Birds, Bare Essence and even North & South.

[janea4old]

I thought Judith Chapman's best work was as Ginny Blake on GH.   

Her work as Anjelica on DAYS was acceptable but not as great as Jane Elliot.

Judith's character Gloria on Y&R was written as over-the-top, so she played it as written but I didn't enjoy the character.  On Y&R, Gloria is the mother of Rikaart's character Kevin,
but it was stupid to bring her to DAYS as the mother of Rikaart's Leo.

Ron just propping Leo by doing this crossover that didn't work.

I mean Judith played Diana as Ron wrote her, but I hate how he wrote her.

 

Edited December 10, 2024 by janea4old

[j swift]

It feels more logical if Leo was Diana's brother (given the actor's 10-year age difference), and they were both raised by Diana's evil mother, who we saw be actually evil on the show.  BTW, I know the age difference isn't exactly ten years, but GF is still too young to be his mother.

Then, Leo could've had a vendetta against the Kiriakis family as his primary motivation.  Rather than involving John, who was totally innocent in the Diana storyline.

I feel like GR's most effective performance on Y&R was when he was a creep, rather than a 'lovable scamp'.  So, it would be nice if the creepy parts of Leo were his primary feature.

Edited December 10, 2024 by j swift

[Contessa Donatella]

I agree 98%. 2% is because I wasn't watching GH yet when she was on there so I have no opinion on that. I would add that a long while back her Gloria didn't seem to me to be SO ott. At least then I found it to be tolerable. But, the last time I saw her Gloria, I was appalled. Ron is not doing anyone any favors with this particular cr*pola.

 

[DRW50]

I think Kristain said in an interview there was a scheduling conflict which meant she couldn't film those scenes.

[janea4old]

True, when Chapman played Gloria as John Abbott's wife, in opposition to Eileen Davidson as her stepdaughter Ashley, Chapman played Gloria as OTT sometimes but with unexpected moments of nuance and vulnerability.  Gloria was her own person back then.

More recently Gloria has been written as only OTT.  Chapman does what she can but it's poor material.  And she's aired only a few times in the past several years.

Edited December 10, 2024 by janea4old

[AbcNbc247]

I just expect them to follow up on that storyline someday because of how it ended. Either with BB or a recast. 

Agreed.

I’m still watching 1988, and every time I see an episode with Diana in it… tbh, it’s almost sad what was done to her.

[Contessa Donatella]

You could be right. I never liked Stefan. I can't explain it since I did like Jake. And, it is intriguing because they are from Vivian. 

I think you'd be in the clear leaving out the word "almost".