19 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I wish they had kept Tate messier though, especially now, after everything he just went through with his parents.

Him being messy all on his own could be another reason why Sophia’s parents reject him. 

I wish they had kept Holly messier, when she wanted Johnny all for herself it was giving Sami 2.0, but every once in awhile they try to make Holly a vixen, they pull the cord .

OK, you know I hate guns, but at least this time they included the detail that a citizen of Salem didn't travel internationally while armed.  Now, how Mark got to Paris so quickly after just running the DNA test for Steve a few hours earlier, is anyone's guess.  And how many flights go from Salem to Paris, if Steve and Mark were on separate planes (this sounds like an algebra question)?

Also, why is Sofia at work while Tate and Aaron are at school?

Finally, I'm glad Steve wasn't shot twice in one year.

It is also a bit bizarre that of all the people who have been suspicious, Chad only called out F-Abby once Holly brought it up.

To be fair, I guess JJ added some credence. 

But, when the woman's own mother has doubts, and you go all the way to Paris to marry her, until a 16-year-old notes their uncertainty, you have to question your judgement. 

BTW, I guess the architect of Horton Square drew inspo from Paris, because they are virtually indistinguishable.  😎😉

4 hours ago, MichaelGL said:

I wish they had kept Holly messier, when she wanted Johnny all for herself it was giving Sami 2.0, but every once in awhile they try to make Holly a vixen, they pull the cord .

I would love for both of them to be messy and toxic lol that would’ve lead to some great drama. 

 

What a complete waste of time this all was, despite today actually being pretty good. Everyone involved in this NotAbigail storyline deserved so much better than this. And all because Ron Carlivati can’t get over his burning hatred for Abigail. Hell, is that hatred also the reason why Bill and Laura were killed off so senselessly? And why Jack and Jennifer were banished to Boston?

And the fact that this is now all tied to the worst strike storyline makes me even less interested in it all. Hopefully, we’ll hear more about this from Billy Flynn or somebody.

Kristen was still pointless in the Sarah’s paralysis storyline. Plus, I’d much rather Dimera go belly up than Titan.

I did like the Brady/Sarah scene though. I’m glad that they talked everything out. Hopefully, Sarah lying isn’t dropped completely. That could lead to good conflict for her and Xander.

5 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

And the fact that this is now all tied to the worst strike storyline makes me even less interested in it all.

I feel like Konstantin and Victor's plane crash were established before the strike.  The scabs just prolonged Konnie and Theresa's plotting, and then RonC wrote the resolution.  However, I think this would've been more salient of a plot had the strike not occurred and F-abby was introduced nine months ago.

Maybe, F-Abby should've been tied to Doug's death, the puzzle box, and the fire at the Horton house? In order to refocus on the core family.

Also, John Black being missing is a key detail that dooms this plot.  It feels weird that Victor's death has instigated so many stories, when Stefano's death was not as impactful.  And with the loss of Doug (and John) coming up so soon, there's a lot of focus on passing.

 

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I thought today's show was decent.  I honestly get a little depressed hearing about John being on vacation and tying this Katarina story into the Greene siblings/FAbby plot.   The audience would be happy to forget the entire Kostantin/Katarina saga and I question Ron for bringing it back when it was probably clear Drake would not be able to finish the story out.  It makes me dread the next several months of vague John mentions.

I thought the Sarah/Brady scenes were nice as well.  

I also liked the Kayla/Marlena scenes.  Days doesn't do friendships well, but it's nice for two long time friends to just chat and catch up.

I really just want Kristen gone.   Why is she so awful?  Just give Sarah the medicine after all you did to her!!  

As far as the Fabby stuff.   BF and ALM did a good job?  It was pretty anti-climatic to me.

32 minutes ago, j swift said:

I feel like Konstantin and Victor's plane crash were established before the strike.  The scabs just prolonged Konnie and Theresa's plotting, and then RonC wrote the resolution.  However, I think this would've been more salient of a plot had the strike not occurred and F-abby was introduced nine months ago.

Maybe, F-Abby should've been tied to Doug's death, the puzzle box, and the fire at the Horton house? In order to refocus on the core family.

Also, John Black being missing is a key detail that dooms this plot.  It feels weird that Victor's death has instigated so many stories, when Stefano's death was not as impactful.  And with the loss of Doug (and John) coming up so soon, there's a lot of focus on passing.

The Konstantin storyline started under Ron but the whole John “killed” Konstantin’s daughter arc was from the strike writers.

I didn’t like how it rewrote history. And how it gave Konstantin more to do.

But I agree, how did they think they could tell this story without Drake/John?

It just seems tacky to me to bring John back into this.  While I am sure everyone was hoping for the very best for him if Drake couldn't film there was no need to bring this Catharina (I was spelling it wrong before lol) stuff back up.  It was basically over and done.  And now we are going to have Marlena and other characters pretend like John is off doing something and living his best life with his dad when it's clear everyone knew he was ill just really puts me off.  There's a difference between Doug playing cards upstairs and John being off screen involved in a major story.

Optimistically, it could allow Brady to mature a bit and pinch hit for John. 

I'd like to see Brady smarten up, and pairing him with Steve could be interesting.

I differ from @carolineg in that I think friendships are one of RonC's writing strengths.  Jada & Stephanie, Chad & Stefan, and Brady & Eric are all entertaining when they play them as friends.  Mostly because they are not just sounding boards, but they also ground them, and make them explain their motives.  I just wish they'd remember Kate's bond with Kayla and Marlena from their adventure together.

4 minutes ago, j swift said:

Optimistically, it could allow Brady to mature a bit and pinch hit for John. 

I'd like to see Brady smarten up, and pairing him with Steve could be interesting.

I differ from @carolineg in that I think friendships are one of RonC's writing strengths.  Jada & Stephanie, Chad & Stefan, and Brady & Eric are all entertaining when they play them as friends.  Mostly because they are not just sounding boards, but they also ground them, and make them explain their motives.  I just wish they'd remember Kate's bond with Kayla and Marlena from their adventure together.

Jada/Stephanie are fine.  I like that friendship.  Chad/Stefan and Brady/Eric are siblings so I consider that a bit different.  There are so many characters on the show with long term connections that hardly interact.  Johnny, Chanel, EJ, Gabi, Xander, Sarah etc all exist with zero friends.  They are friendly with some people but there aren't real connections there.  

Friendships were certainly explored more during the strike.  And familiar friends have a long history in Salem, including Jen and Hope.

I recall Alex and Chad had a nice rapprochement when Alex played ball with Thomas.

Chad and Everett, and even Leo, had some pleasant scenes at the newspaper.

And the development of Xander and Chloe from friends to lovers was entertaining.

Also, I love the bonds between Chad & Julie, and Xander & Maggie.

But, I agree, Sarah and Gabi have no female friendships.  For example, I wonder why Gabi and Chanel don't share more scenes, as they seem well suited as friends.  I blame the production model.  While it doesn't bother me that they film a decade in advance. (😎😉)  The fact that they seem to block film similar scenes partners often means that we don't get a lot of interactions between stories. 

Also, did Marlena say that John went to Greece or Italy to lay flowers of Catarina's grave?  I thought he went to Greece, but the synopsis says Italy.

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Stefan raped Chad's wife, I don't see how they can be considered a good example of friendship. If anything the fact that they're so chummy shows once more how much of misogynistic pig Ron is. 

At least Chad and EJ, despite their up and down, make sense as brothers who are close. 

5 hours ago, carolineg said:

Jada/Stephanie are fine.  I like that friendship.  Chad/Stefan and Brady/Eric are siblings so I consider that a bit different.  There are so many characters on the show with long term connections that hardly interact.  Johnny, Chanel, EJ, Gabi, Xander, Sarah etc all exist with zero friends.  They are friendly with some people but there aren't real connections there.  

I have liked some of the recent friendships on Days. But they really seemed to have forgotten a lot of them. 

Tate/Aaron, Jack/Xander, Lani/Kristen, Bonnie/Sarah. Even Gwen/Leo in some ways (which made breaking them up even more gross and disgusting then it already was 🤮🤮)

I do agree though that Johnny and Chanel each need a friend.

Gabi is sort of like the Carly Spencer of Days. She hates other women, so I can see why she has no friends

And EJ’s too much of a mama’s boy to have friends 😂😂😂

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