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On 9/25/2024 at 11:07 PM, Contessa Donatella said:

I don't see that. Where does the idea that Alexis is playing both sides, even come from? Especially after today when Alexis explained that she did not believe that Kristina would pursue custody. This is exactly what I thought, all along. We will never know now.

From watching this episode from 2 weeks ago I don't feel like Alexis is hammering down to Kristina that she is wring for trying to take her sister's baby, then picking a fight with Ava while pregnant.

Alexis has just been trying to keep the peace between both siblings but his is not a two-sided situation.

Kristina's completely in the wrong and Molly should not be pressured by Alexis to make peace with her sister. Kristina should be pressured to apologize for what she did.

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1 minute ago, Planet Soap said:

From watching this episode from 2 weeks ago I don't feel like Alexis is hammering down to Kristina that Kristina did something wrong.

Alexis has just trying to keep the peace between both siblings.

This is not a two-sided situation, Kristina's completely in the wrong and Molly should not be pressured by Alexis to make peace with her sister. Kristina should be pressured to apologize for what she did.

Well, she already has said she was sorry, sincerely. And I expect she will be saying it more. She's experiencing both guilt & regret. However, it really is a multi-faceted situation. Kristina had no way of knowing what an impact being pregnant would have on her. She began this only hoping to do a good thing for her sister, who she loves. Yes, we all know that things went very badly awry. Everyone has lost. Molly is going to have to live with this. I would not like to see a permanent rift. If you ask me, Alexis, stuck in the middle, is doing the best she can. 

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Yesterday's episode was pretty good.  

Carly and Sonny being annoyed about "pretending" to be together feels false.  They've been weirdly close exes for years it shouldn't be that hard lol.  

I don't really understand why there were multiple scenes between Brennen and Carly about the dangerous airspace the plane was in when absolutely nothing happened.  It was a weird waste of airtime.

Lucky calling Liz at the hospital gave me the feels and I am not even a huge LL2 fan.

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4 hours ago, carolineg said:

Carly and Sonny being annoyed about "pretending" to be together feels false.  They've been weirdly close exes for years it shouldn't be that hard lol.

It works for me (as well as anything with the two of them can work for me) because since Nixon Falls they have not really been the same. Then Nina. I buy both of them not relishing this.

The truth is Kristina needs to make amends with both TJ and Molly for the betrayal, and choosing to engage with Ava. She has some culpability in the accident. She has way more amends to make for deciding after a couple of arguments between TJ/Molly that she was all of a sudden the only choice for their baby.

If Molly wanted to fight dirty she could remind Kristina that she was hormonal and had a new relationship and thought that was more stable than Molly was. A relationship that ended during its first big test while she was in the hospital. Who exactly is the stable couple here?

Molly calling them out for protecting Kristina from her own actions rings true to me because Kristina has done this repeatedly. She is spoiled, she is self absorbed. Always has been.

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9 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Well, she already has said she was sorry, sincerely. And I expect she will be saying it more. She's experiencing both guilt & regret. However, it really is a multi-faceted situation. Kristina had no way of knowing what an impact being pregnant would have on her. She began this only hoping to do a good thing for her sister, who she loves. Yes, we all know that things went very badly awry. Everyone has lost. Molly is going to have to live with this. I would not like to see a permanent rift. If you ask me, Alexis, stuck in the middle, is doing the best she can. 

The post below from @titan1978 sums up Kristina perfectly.

1 hour ago, titan1978 said:

The truth is Kristina needs to make amends with both TJ and Molly for the betrayal, and choosing to engage with Ava. She has some culpability in the accident. She has way more amends to make for deciding after a couple of arguments between TJ/Molly that she was all of a sudden the only choice for their baby.

If Molly wanted to fight dirty she could remind Kristina that she was hormonal and had a new relationship and thought that was more stable than Molly was. A relationship that ended during its first big test while she was in the hospital. Who exactly is the stable couple here?

Molly calling them out for protecting Kristina from her own actions rings true to me because Kristina has done this repeatedly. She is spoiled, she is self absorbed. Always has been.

Exactly, Kristina is a spoiled self absorbed mess and Alexis is protecting her. Kristina's apology isn't sincere because she admits having no regrets for trying to take custody of TJ's baby. 

Of course no surrogate can predict how their emotions are going to change during the pregnancy, but thats too bad🤷‍♀️ You volunteered to do something so see it through. Kristina is not a victim in this at all.

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6 minutes ago, Planet Soap said:

The post below from @titan1978 sums up Kristina perfectly.

Exactly, Kristina is a spoiled self absorbed mess and Alexis is protecting her. Kristina's apology isn't sincere because she admits having no regrets for trying to take custody of TJ's baby. 

Of course no surrogate can predict how their emotions are going to change during the pregnancy, but thats too bad🤷‍♀️ You volunteered to do something so see it through. Kristina is not a victim in this at all.

Could not agree with this more. I will never see Kristina as nothing more than the woman who wanted to keep her sister’s baby and then recklessly lost that child.

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32 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Could not agree with this more. I will never see Kristina as nothing more than the woman who wanted to keep her sister’s baby and then recklessly lost that child.

Yep. Pretty much.

 

 

32 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Could not agree with this more. I will never see Kristina as nothing more than the woman who wanted to keep her sister’s baby and then recklessly lost that child.

Yep. Pretty much.

 

 

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3 hours ago, titan1978 said:

It works for me (as well as anything with the two of them can work for me) because since Nixon Falls they have not really been the same. Then Nina. I buy both of them not relishing this.

 

That's fair.  I just think this is sort of old hat shenanigans with Sonny/Carly and it shouldn't be so exhausting for them.  It's their bread and butter toxicity.  Like I assume they can pretend to be a couple for a dinner without it being annoying to them lol.  It's not like they had to make on on a conference desk or anything.

3 hours ago, Planet Soap said:

Exactly, Kristina is a spoiled self absorbed mess and Alexis is protecting her. Kristina's apology isn't sincere because she admits having no regrets for trying to take custody of TJ's baby. 

Of course no surrogate can predict how their emotions are going to change during the pregnancy, but thats too bad🤷‍♀️ You volunteered to do something so see it through. Kristina is not a victim in this at all.

Anyone can see that Kristina has suffered a loss & there's no way around that. In fact her suffering is not just one loss. She lost the baby she was carrying. She also lost Blaze. And, she is terribly concerned that she may have lost a sister in the process. Those of us who do not doubt her sincerity see this totally differently than some of you others do. Only time will tell, A lot has to shake out before we close this chapter. I happen to agree with Alexis & this is something I thought all along. If things had gone another way I believe Irene would now be safe in her parent's arms, Tolly I mean.

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I don’t doubt Kristina believes she is being sincere, of course she loves Molly and feels badly about the entire situation. I just think it doesn’t matter because it is not based in any truth. She may believe it, but until she actually admits she stopped caring about Molly and TJ and what she was doing with them and decided to keep the baby for purely selfish reasons, her sincerity means zilch. And Molly can’t give space to Kristina’s pain until the betrayal is dealt with.

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49 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I don’t doubt Kristina believes she is being sincere, of course she loves Molly and feels badly about the entire situation. I just think it doesn’t matter because it is not based in any truth. She may believe it, but until she actually admits she stopped caring about Molly and TJ and what she was doing with them and decided to keep the baby for purely selfish reasons, her sincerity means zilch. And Molly can’t give space to Kristina’s pain until the betrayal is dealt with.

I understand what you mean. We are just going to have to agree to disagree about the issue of sincerity. 

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Once Lucky gets back to Port Charles, I think his scenes will be better. Once Lucky starts interacting with Port Charles residents, I think that the show's ratings will go up.

I like Brennan now. I like Brennan and Carly together.

The Tracy-Stella scene on Friday was very good.

Kristen Vaganos has now been on the show for a year and her role is getting bigger.

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Honestly, Lucky's first few weeks have already put me off this return and I do not care to see him interact with anyone else, and I still think Liz deserves better (which the show won't do, but here we are). 

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They definitely stretched the limit with the captivity stuff but I’m still excited now that Lucky is finally in Port Charles. Just don’t make the mistake they did with Jason by keeping him away from the characters we want to see him with in favor of pushing one ship.

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38 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

Honestly, Lucky's first few weeks have already put me off this return and I do not care to see him interact with anyone else, and I still think Liz deserves better (which the show won't do, but here we are). 

Liz deserves better than the person that Lucky currently is, but Lucky can and will change.

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