1 hour ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Then again, Joss is awful enough to make people say things that they might not have ever said before.

Trust me, I know 😂😂

I find that Joss appropriately is a mini Carly in particular Laura Wright’s Carly. Like I can’t imagine her being any different and less hypocritical given who her mom is and that she was practically raised in Sonny’s household most of her life as well. If Jax was a bigger influence in her life I’d get the frustrations with the character but truly she’s just Mini Carly, sanctimonious and all.

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Why does poor Lulu have to be subjected to Willow’s messy life?

5 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Why does poor Lulu have to be subjected to Willow’s messy life?

IKR?  Probably makes Lulu want to fall deeper into her coma after listening to Willow.

Can't Willow talk to someone about this?  I am sure Sasha would listen to her at least.

1 minute ago, carolineg said:

IKR?  Probably makes Lulu want to fall deeper into her coma after listening to Willow.

Can't Willow talk to someone about this?  I am sure Sasha would listen to her at least.

Has Sasha told her yet she saw the kiss? I’m blanking.

15 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Has Sasha told her yet she saw the kiss? I’m blanking.

I am pretty sure she told Willow she saw it.  But again, when Willow and Sasha come on screen I generally fall asleep with my eyes open so I could be wrong.

Had to edit because I thought you asked if Sasha told anyone else besides Willow.  Apparently I fall asleep with my eyes open when reading about Sasha too😂

Edited September 13, 20241 yr by carolineg

21 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Why does poor Lulu have to be subjected to Willow’s messy life?

Because, why not? HAHAHAAH

This episode was hard for me. It was just an episode of Sonny supporters and I can’t handle that. You have everyone at Deception acting like Tracy is coo coo for having a brain and knowing that obviously Sonny killed this man. Then you have Michael who seems to have forgotten the last person Sonny shot in cold blood was his own dad, but yes of course Jagger is so much worse. 

The heavy handed Sonny writing is already getting back out of control for my tastes.

5 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

The heavy handed Sonny writing is already getting back out of control for my tastes.

And we knew it was coming the moment Sonny went back on his meds.

1 minute ago, Liberty City said:

And we knew it was coming the moment Sonny went back on his meds.

I don’t even remember him even really apologizing. Everyone just got over all of his verbal abuse for months in a matter of two seconds.

3 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

I don’t even remember him even really apologizing. Everyone just got over all of his verbal abuse for months in a matter of two seconds.

Yup; it's how it unfortunately works.

Also I hate that they’ve moved Tracy from her now natural Matriarch of the Quartermaine family position to just being the cranky Tracy no one likes again. 

28 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Also I hate that they’ve moved Tracy from her now natural Matriarch of the Quartermaine family position to just being the cranky Tracy no one likes again. 

I called this out before and this is exactly what happened with Tracy. They’ve reverted back to the same lazy writing for her as before. It’s clear PM saw her as someone much more layered than what this team sees her as. 

I hate it and Jane Elliott deserves better for being one of the saving graces on this show. 

It’s so damn insulting to the audience that Tracy gets portrayed as being wrong and crazy for saying the truth about people like Sonny, Jason, and Carly. 

I get everyone's dissatisfaction with Tracy reverting back to the unlikable, bitchy Q again.  She is still the smartest person in the room though.  She knows Sonny's game and everyone else is 🤷‍♀️ about it.  The scenes with Cody and the Scorpio brood were uncalled for, but I can imagine being very frustrated about the Deception meeting.  No one was listening to her.  She just took it out on the wrong people.

4 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

I called this out before and this is exactly what happened with Tracy. They’ve reverted back to the same lazy writing for her as before. It’s clear PM saw her as someone much more layered than what this team sees her as. 

I hate it and Jane Elliott deserves better for being one of the saving graces on this show. 

It’s so damn insulting to the audience that Tracy gets portrayed as being wrong and crazy for saying the truth about people like Sonny, Jason, and Carly. 

It’s just another one of the things that is going to push me back into not watching soon. Tracy was PERFECT as the matriarch who still had a little fire but was very warm as well. I feel like I’m being gaslit right along with Tracy being stuck watching these idiots defend Sonny to her like it’s so far fetched. He literally killed her nephew in cold blood. And her other nephew is Sonny’s thug 🙄. It’s maddening.

And nothing will change because they bumped the numbers a little. Tired.