1 minute ago, Liberty City said:

Well, Carly removed Jax's belt and somewhat felt his front, and then they were both front-facing, as Jax's pants were around his ankles. It was very suggestive.

I don't want to deep dive LW's Carly's love scenes anymore, okay?  😂 

Suggestive is whatever to me and the Jax/Carly scenes were more lighthearted.  There was something about the Sonny/Carly limo scene that disturbed my soul.

50 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I don't want to deep dive LW's Carly's love scenes anymore, okay?  😂 

You love it. Don't deny it.

44 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

You love it. Don't deny it.

Honestly, I remember them clearly so I must subconsciously.😂

I do find it a weird shift for Sonny to be so sure Jason is working against him.  It's like there's about 30 years of contrary evidence to that and you would think he dig more.

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7 hours ago, detroitpiston said:

So Jason’s been a mercenary working for Jagger and something is being held over his head to keep him on mission. I’m intrigued by the mystery of it all.

I finally watched today's ep.

I don't get the implications surrounding John?  Does this make him a bad guy?  Is he not really working for the FBI?  Or, is it justifiable that Jason has done a lot of illegal activity in the service of importing coffee and this is the federal official's way of a plea bargain. Jason described his job as a mercenary, but I am interested to get more insight into John's motives.  Because this seems like an extreme reaction to a long-running dislike of Sonny.  For example, why do all of this now and not two decades ago?

And all of this feels like a very expensive and overly complicated way to get rid of an elderly mob boss who lives in a small town in upstate New York.  Especially, from what we've seen, they could've just tripped him and made him fall in the pool like Ned.

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7 hours ago, detroitpiston said:

So Jason’s been a mercenary working for Jagger and something is being held over his head to keep him on mission. I’m intrigued by the mystery of it all.

I'm thinking Carly, when Sonny was in Nixon Falls, she ran his mob family. The Feds are always tapping phones. In the newly created flashback, Jagger said he was about to hear incontrovertible proof of Ricco violations, a Federal crime, carrying a 20-year sentence. 

7 hours ago, detroitpiston said:

SB did great work once again when Jason told Michael about the first time Bobbie put Michael in his hands. He’s much more committed as an actor this go around which is nice. 

This is the most humanity I've ever seen in Jason Morgan. 

 

Maybe Jagger had Jason become an FBI informant and he was the one telling Jagger about the planned mob killings? 

 

I hope Jagger doesnt end up being the baddie here.

2 minutes ago, John said:

Maybe Jagger had Jason become an FBI informant and he was the one telling Jagger about the planned mob killings? 

 

I hope Jagger doesnt end up being the baddie here.

I had similar hope, but Jason's use of the term mercenary felt very deliberate.  And the idea that unless he carries out his mission, something terrible would happen, doesn't feel like how a network show would want to portray the FBI.  If it was the WSB there might be more wiggle room, but I'm stuck on it being the FBI and that they invoked the RICO law.

Also, the SORAS implications of Jason telling Michael what it was like to hold him as an infant, were distractingly amusing.  Along with the idea that, Jason's been busy as a murder-for-hire assassin for the past two years, but he's also had plenty of time to get a sleeve of tattoos.  Good to know mercenaries have unlimited PTO.

3 minutes ago, j swift said:

I had similar hope, but Jason's use of the term mercenary felt very deliberate.  And the idea that unless he carries out his mission, something terrible would happen, doesn't feel like how a network show would want to portray the FBI.  If it was the WSB there might be more wiggle room, but I'm stuck on it being the FBI and that they invoked the RICO law.

Also, the SORAS implications of Jason telling Michael what it was like to hold him as an infant, were distractingly amusing.  Along with the idea that, Jason's been busy as a murder-for-hire assassin for the past two years, but he's also had plenty of time to get a sleeve of tattoos.  Good to know mercenaries have unlimited PTO.

I do think there is more to this and I dont think its as cut & dry as they made the twist seem today. Time will tell. 

53 minutes ago, j swift said:

Also, the SORAS implications of Jason telling Michael what it was like to hold him as an infant, were distractingly amusing.  Along with the idea that, Jason's been busy as a murder-for-hire assassin for the past two years, but he's also had plenty of time to get a sleeve of tattoos.  Good to know mercenaries have unlimited PTO.

The SORAS on Michael isn't bad at all lol?  He was born about 25 years ago and we lived through multiple years of Dylan Cash as Michael.  He's maybe five years older than he should be?

Just now, carolineg said:

The SORAS on Michael isn't bad at all lol?  He was born about 25 years ago and we lived through multiple years of Dylan Cash as Michael.  He's maybe five years older than he should be?

He was introduced in 1997, and was retconned to 1992.

Just now, carolineg said:

The SORAS on Michael isn't bad at all lol?  He was born about 25 years ago and we lived through multiple years of Dylan Cash as Michael.  He's maybe five years older than he should be?

LOL, I was reacting to the other side of the equation. If Jason held Michael as a baby, he'd be middle-aged now.   So, the idea that John and the FBI would recruit a guy in his early 50s as a mercenary feels a bit preposterous. 

18 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

He was introduced in 1997, and was retconned to 1992.

Thank you!  That's pretty much what I thought.

16 minutes ago, j swift said:

LOL, I was reacting to the other side of the equation. If Jason held Michael as a baby, he'd be middle-aged now.   So, the idea that John and the FBI would recruit a guy in his early 50s as a mercenary feels a bit preposterous. 

I don't exactly get what you are saying.  Jason is middle aged now so is Jagger.  They are literally the same age and went to high school together.  Jason is supposedly a very good hitman/shot so it's not like age is actually that big of a deal if you can easily hit a target and are athletic.

Jason did hold Michael as a baby.  That's a real thing you can look up.  I am not even trying to be mean, but what Jason said did happen in real time on the show.

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14 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Jason is supposedly a very good hitman/shot so it's not like age is actually that big of a deal if you can easily hit a target and are athletic.

Good point, and I never take your responses as mean spirited @carolineg .  I guess I was just thinking that Jason would have more salient (or recent) memories of Bobbie than from when Michael was a baby in 1997.  So, I was simply distracted that they chose that moment to highlight her loss, and we can chalk it up to a failed attempt at humor on my part.

Does Jason know that Brit's also dead?

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9 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Thank you!  That's pretty much what I thought.

Not to mention, Michael did spend what, a year off-screen while he was in the coma?

12 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Jason did hold Michael as a baby.  That's a real thing you can look up.  I am not even trying to be mean, but was Jason said did happen in real time on the show.

And it was a remarkable scene. They could have gone with some flashback but this choice was so special!