Lois Nettleton. She was heartbreaking. 

On 3/3/2023 at 6:37 AM, DRW50 said:

You could really see Guza's contempt for that character (and likely the women who had helped write the rape story) when he had Lucky tell Liz the only time she was of worth to him was when she was bleeding in the snow after being raped. 

I never really liked JJ Lucky, honestly, or the punishing, misogynist nostalgia that surrounded his take on the character, and that moment will always cement why.

On 3/3/2023 at 6:57 AM, Vee said:

Which is why JJ quit again. According to his own interviews, he had expected a romance for Lucky and Elizabeth and got them broken up and him paired with a newbie, and found the rest of his material unrelentingly dark and bleak.

On 3/3/2023 at 7:17 AM, Darn said:

They certainly put in the work to make Lucky his father’s son.

Agreed. They tried t make him Luke. It's clear the the writers hated the Quartermaines for no reason but they had something against the Spencers too. The destruction of Luke & Laura, followed by the distruction of Lucky and Liz, Jake's death, Lucky's pill addiction, coupled with the nihlistic attitudes of Luke and Lucky were all nails in the coffin. Add the Fluke/Bill mess under Frank and the Spencers were broken. The only long running non Cornithos family to survived the last two regimes seems to be the Cassedines. 

SB: If only Cameron read Joss for filth the way Lucky did to Liz!

Edited March 4, 20232 yr by ironlion

On 2/22/2023 at 8:00 PM, Dr Neil Curtis said:

Days -

Good: Parker being Philip’s son

Bad: Parker being Daniel’s son (And done with Philip being off camera)

Daniel and Summer being Maggie’s. 

Thank you and agreed! The best part about the reveal of Parker being Phillip’s son was seeing Peggy McCay going above and beyond to play a nasty, bitter, resentful, and vindictive Caroline as she revealed why she switched the test results to Stephanie in a very chilling scene. 

The fact the show changed that a few years later all to prop up Daniel and manufacture tension for Nicole and Chloe was really really lame. 
 

I’m not even sure what the point of Summer was. 

I'm sorry, Caroline Brady altered paternity test results?  What?!!  Was Sami on the show at this point, to bond with her grandma over the experience?

I shouldn't judge not having seen it, but I have to say that sounds like a parody of what is sooo wrong about soaps' continued reliance on paternity mysteries after the general public became aware of DNA.  In hindsight, this is actually an (indirect) effect you could legitimately say the OJ trial had on the genre long-term.  Instead of recognizing that those stories were anachronistic and coming up with something new, most writers doubled down.  By the end of the '90s virtually anybody and everybody in a soap town could walk into a hospital lab and successfully switch test results with the click of a button, regardless of their education, security clearance, or lack thereof.

Edited March 10, 20232 yr by DeliaIrisFan

I don't want to be struck in prisoner of the moment, but I think a current one is right up there in the bad. Carly getting a free pass in eight minutes for keeping this a secret for eight months. No fallout. No payoff. Nobody on Nina's side mad at her. Everyone kissing Carly's ass. It was revenge. Plain and simple. How they have worked overtime whitewash and protect her is ludicrous. No mention of the countless times she has kept parents from their kids like it's a one off. She loves to play judge and jury on who has the right to know about their family. It turns my stomach how they've twisted this. 

Edited March 9, 20232 yr by Vince79