@KMan101 The Cassandra storyline was great, most of AMC 2.0 was good.

 

Hated how the soap press treated it along with OLTL 2.0

 

 

The trafficking storyline was pretty relevant (IMO), it still is as human trafficking persists.  I really loved that fact that AMC 2.0 took this on when network daytime soaps don't appear to want to.  And two of the least liked characters on the canvas (Colby and David Haywood) showed compassion and friendship to Cassandra and Angie.  It was unexpected but somehow it worked!

I'm still pissed Soap Opera Digest shitted on the story and Colby

I gave up on SOD many moons ago, but I'm curious: what was their take on the story and Colby?

- Teen pregnancy stories. It's redundant and not every young teen are out here having kids. Many of them have restraint or are practicing safe sex. I said this in another thread a few days ago, that I don't mind it when it is done every now and then, but it is rampant on soaps. I feel like headwriters on soaps need to be forced to watch Degrassi, which I feel is a great show to get stories on young adults. It's always current, on the pulse, and not always centered around some young girl's womb. 

 

- Long lost kid. Another trope I don't mind when done correctly; however, it has been misused a lot in the past ten years. Most of the time, it doesn't even add up to many of the character's timelines. Ex: Nikki & Paul (YR), John (DAYS), Maggie (DAYS)...

 

 

- Teen pregnancy stories. It's redundant and not every young teen are out here having kids. Many of them have restraint or are practicing safe sex. I said this in another thread a few days ago, that I don't mind it when it is done every now and then, but it is rampant on soaps. I feel like headwriters on soaps need to be forced to watch Degrassi, which I feel is a great show to get stories on young adults. It's always current, on the pulse, and not always centered around some young girl's womb. 

 

- Long lost kid. Another trope I don't mind when done correctly; however, it has been misused a lot in the past ten years. Most of the time, it doesn't even add up to many of the character's timelines. Ex: Nikki & Paul (YR), John (DAYS), Maggie (DAYS)...

 

 

Degrassi is the most realistic teen soap in many years

- Teen pregnancy stories. It's redundant and not every young teen are out here having kids. Many of them have restraint or are practicing safe sex. I said this in another thread a few days ago, that I don't mind it when it is done every now and then, but it is rampant on soaps. I feel like headwriters on soaps need to be forced to watch Degrassi, which I feel is a great show to get stories on young adults. It's always current, on the pulse, and not always centered around some young girl's womb. 

 

- Long lost kid. Another trope I don't mind when done correctly; however, it has been misused a lot in the past ten years. Most of the time, it doesn't even add up to many of the character's timelines. Ex: Nikki & Paul (YR), John (DAYS), Maggie (DAYS)...

 

 

Exactly I also don't like all these young women not even in their mid 20s yet rushing to be married and start a family with their first real boyfriend. Outside of people involved in the military I don't see that too often in real life. Women have goals to go to school, get a job, get their own and do well for themselves.

I don't think they should copy Degrassi but they do need to consult/observe some real teens. 

Edited May 11, 20169 yr by frequentsoapfan

@KMan101 The Cassandra storyline was great, most of AMC 2.0 was good.

 

Hated how the soap press treated it along with OLTL 2.0

 

 

The trafficking storyline was pretty relevant (IMO), it still is as human trafficking persists.  I really loved that fact that AMC 2.0 took this on when network daytime soaps don't appear to want to.  And two of the least liked characters on the canvas (Colby and David Haywood) showed compassion and friendship to Cassandra and Angie.  It was unexpected but somehow it worked!

I'm still pissed Soap Opera Digest shitted on the story and Colby

I gave up on SOD many moons ago, but I'm curious: what was their take on the story and Colby?

SOD gave it a negative review saying that viewers barely knew Cassandra when she appeared on ABC's AMC in 2008 and that Sal Stowers was a newbie. And how it was a rip-off of Taken.and that it was gritty and icky showing Cassandra being beaten and raped. How it caused an "unnecessary" rift between Angie and Jesse, how,it wasted Zach and how Zach/Lea (Paula Garces' character) were painful to watch

 

SOD said that Colby was one-dimensional villain playing childish pranks

Edited May 11, 20169 yr by cassadine1991

 Degrassi is the most realistic teen soap in many years

 

It is and I enjoy it. I love how you get the whole feel of high school with this show. Especially, with the recent reboot, which I love. Soaps need to study that show and everything it is doing for teen stories. 

 

Exactly I also don't like all these young women not even in their mid 20s yet rushing to be married and start a family with their first real boyfriend. Outside of people involved in the military I don't see that too often in real life. Women have goals to go to school, get a job, get their own and do well for themselves.

 

I don't either. I feel like soaps are backwards nowadays. From reading synopsis of soaps from the 70s and 80s, we saw young teen women on these shows be career driven heroines or vixens. Babies were the last thing on their minds. Now, I feel like soaps have reverted back to the 50s when it comes to all women. All they have to offer are being pregnant and constantly crying over men. It's outdated and tacky. 

You would think that soaps would've evolved by now.

I look at these teen and young adult storylines and they aren't good at all, even the dialogue sucks. I can't think of the last good teen storyline.

You would think that soaps would've evolved by now.

 

I look at these teen and young adult storylines and they aren't good at all, even the dialogue sucks. I can't think of the last good teen storyline.

 

 

How can anything evolve in an industry that doesn't evolve behind the scenes? When you don't bring in new blood to a dying industry, old, tired stories will keep occurring. 

Edited May 11, 20169 yr by Nothin'ButAttitude

You would think that soaps would've evolved by now.

 

I look at these teen and young adult storylines and they aren't good at all, even the dialogue sucks. I can't think of the last good teen storyline.

 

 

How can anything evolve in an industry that doesn't evolve behind the scenes? When you don't bring in new blood to a dying industry, old, tired stories will keep occurring. 

it's so disappointing

@KMan101 The Cassandra storyline was great, most of AMC 2.0 was good.

 

Hated how the soap press treated it along with OLTL 2.0

 

 

The trafficking storyline was pretty relevant (IMO), it still is as human trafficking persists.  I really loved that fact that AMC 2.0 took this on when network daytime soaps don't appear to want to.  And two of the least liked characters on the canvas (Colby and David Haywood) showed compassion and friendship to Cassandra and Angie.  It was unexpected but somehow it worked!

I'm still pissed Soap Opera Digest shitted on the story and Colby

I gave up on SOD many moons ago, but I'm curious: what was their take on the story and Colby?

SOD gave it a negative review saying that viewers barely knew Cassandra when she appeared on ABC's AMC in 2008 and that Sal Stowers was a newbie. And how it was a rip-off of Taken.and that it was gritty and icky showing Cassandra being beaten and raped. How it caused an "unnecessary" rift between Angie and Jesse, how,it wasted Zach and how Zach/Lea (Paula Garces' character) were painful to watch

 

SOD said that Colby was one-dimensional villain playing childish pranks

Thanks. The only thing I agree with was their assessment of the Zach/Lea pairing. Otherwise, I disagree completely. I think it was a powerful storyline and bravely tackled the topic of abortion in a time when most soaps cowardly shy away from the subject.

TBH, I thought the human trafficking story should have been told in flashbacks.  Cassandra could have escaped from her captor at the start of AMC 2.0 and returned to Pine Valley, determined to forget her ordeal and move forward.  However, she would have been plagued with nightmares and flashbacks that gradually revealed to the audience the extent of her abduction and torture; and as her behavior grew more and more erratic, her loved ones (and Jesse and Angie, in particular) would begin to suspect she was hiding a very dark and tragic secret from her past.

TBH, I thought the human trafficking story should have been told in flashbacks.  Cassandra could have escaped from her captor at the start of AMC 2.0 and returned to Pine Valley, determined to forget her ordeal and move forward.  However, she would have been plagued with nightmares and flashbacks that gradually revealed to the audience the extent of her abduction and torture; and as her behavior grew more and more erratic, her loved ones (and Jesse and Angie, in particular) would begin to suspect she was hiding a very dark and tragic secret from her past.

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This is the perfect type of story I'd wanna see flashback occurring. The audience gained a bit of the puzzle as Cass would've slowly descended into madness and combustion over the secret.

The overused plot device I hate the most is The Big Murder Mystery. Every one in town confronts The Villain, and says some form of "I could  kill you". Of course the villain IS killed, all the principals are suspects (with no alibis), the story drags on forever, and then some minor day player ends up as the killer.

As far as the identical twins plot device, I couldn't agree more. Unless the actor/actress is up to the job of creating two distinct characters, this device is doomed to fail. The only people I've seen be successful as identical twins were David Canary (AMC) , Martha Byrne (ATWT) and Julianne Moore (ATWT). 

The overused plot device I hate the most is The Big Murder Mystery. Every one in town confronts The Villain, and says some form of "I could  kill you". Of course the villain IS killed, all the principals are suspects (with no alibis), the story drags on forever, and then some minor day player ends up as the killer.

As far as the identical twins plot device, I couldn't agree more. Unless the actor/actress is up to the job of creating two distinct characters, this device is doomed to fail. The only people I've seen be successful as identical twins were David Canary (AMC) , Martha Byrne (ATWT) and Julianne Moore (ATWT). 

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Don't forget Anne Heche (AW).

The overused plot device I hate the most is The Big Murder Mystery. Every one in town confronts The Villain, and says some form of "I could  kill you". Of course the villain IS killed, all the principals are suspects (with no alibis), the story drags on forever, and then some minor day player ends up as the killer.

Or if it is a main player they find some way to try and justify it. Like Nikki bashing Diane's skull in was considered self defense against a syringe which I believe only had something in it to numb a body temporarily.