June 10, 201411 yr Member I might agree more about Frons if he hadn't spent his time at CBS and NBC trying to can soaps. Edited June 10, 201411 yr by DRW50
June 10, 201411 yr Member I think that's true to a point, but it didn't do much to help OLTL or AMC. Ron and Frank didn't do much to help OLTL either. I think it was better than GH is now, but not by much. They had the same problems there that they do on GH. They're just not very good. I think that's true to a point, but it didn't do much to help OLTL or AMC. Ron and Frank didn't do much to help OLTL either. I think it was better than GH is now, but not by much. They had the same problems there that they do on GH. They're just not very good.
June 10, 201411 yr Member I have never believed it was Frons' purpose or mission to get rid of soaps. I think his vision was flawed, but he genuinely believed he was doing what needed to be done to transform soaps, transition them into a new age and save the genre. He was wrong. But he wasn't evil the way some people try to make him out to be. And Ron and Frank think they're returning GH to the golden age type of show that epitomizes soaps' glory years. They too are wrong. That's not what they're doing. They're just capitalizing on the worst that soaps ever were and completely ignoring the bond viewers build with characters over years of viewing. Take a look at JFP and Craptini. They don't need Frons' help at all to screw up the soaps in their charge. YR and GH are both visionless crap!
June 11, 201411 yr Member GH inherited quite a bit of fans from AMC and OLTL, and yes, it's the worst its ever been. Disjointed mess, but some are desperate for soaps and they will watch anything. When GH features the pewbies, the ratings definitely decline. Fret not, ABC is still on a mission, and anyone who wants to believe ABC is fully backing GH, I got some swamp land for yah! Peeps kill me when they contribute the ratings to a character or couple. If Miller, MM or Staffordshire had that kind of impact on the show, YR would have tanked by now. Not one of them is the reason the show is consistently declining in the ratings. And if a character or couple is the only reason someone watches, then your show sucks! Ray Wise was wasted. A better regime could have told that cult story, which practically writes itself, with ease. I have not watched in over a month, but last I saw, Ray Wise just walks around grinning. Ian Ward was meant for greatness and not someone to give Avery more airtime. Hevon. YR had the opportunity to tell a story with 2 young folks falling in love, something rare on soaps these days, but they reverted to old scrips with the Winters and put this beautiful vibrant young woman, Hillary, in Neil's bed because the Winters men have never fought over women before, right? Wrong! That's all the Winters men have done. I tuned out because this was the reason I tuned in. The wonderful thing about a well rounded good show is, when one thing catches your eye, other things will as well. That's how I came to love Ian Ward. Back in the day, we didn't tune in depending who was on. The entire show was must see! Courtney? This wooden barbie doll and Noah? Ridiculous. This girl is a supporting character in a sitcom featuring mean girls if I've ever seen one. Shick? Who [!@#$%^&*] cares? Tabby and Mariah? Again, who cares? Lane. Stans, who have taken control of the show, won't allow TIIC to break this pairing up and allow them to flourish outside the pairing. What can you do but ff or tune out? Avery and the cooking hour? Seriously? The gruesome foursome? Bricky, her baby woes and the 3 stooges that surround her? Honestly, is this really must see? AH carrying a story? That's equivalent to sominex! YR is in a very weakened state right now, and if something is not done fast, it wont' be pretty. While I agree that their departures aren't the sole reasons for the ratings drop, I do think they are a factor. Part of the reason Y&R doesn't feel like Y&R anymore is because of the amount of actors no longer with the show in such a short period of time. Of course the writing plays a huge part as well.
June 11, 201411 yr Member GH is actually decreasing in the ratings, this in spite of a full court press with their new characters and expensive hires. Having higher ratings than they had a year ago isn't doing them any good in the present. I don't think this sentence makes sense. They have higher ratings than they did a year ago, therefore their ratings are up. You could look at week to week comparisons to find a way to say ratings are down, but the weekly whims of the audience makes that a bad way to judge. Wasn't it a few weeks ago the subtitie to this thread was GH attracts largest sweeps audience in 7 years? GH inherited quite a bit of fans from AMC and OLTL, and yes, it's the worst its ever been It's only the worst it has ever been if you do not think the era of Sonny, Carly and Jason on the show seven days a week was the worst it has ever been. If you miss the day of the drabs then it is the worst it has ever been.
June 11, 201411 yr Member It's only the worst it has ever been if you do not think the era of Sonny, Carly and Jason on the show seven days a week was the worst it has ever been. If you miss the day of the drabs then it is the worst it has ever been. Please! You may not have liked who was featured, but at least stories were told and we were not subjected to Connect The Plots! Nothing is worse than consistent OFFSCREEN storytelling! We won't even discuss the weekly retcons because that could take all day. I loved the mob, but I agree that no 3 characters should dominate a soap opera. But again, nothing is worse than the severely polluted disjointed mess going on now!
June 11, 201411 yr Member I'm not trying to call anyone out but certain poster(s) who ardently defended JFP and JP, despite warnings, are now singing a new tune? Just. ugh +1
June 11, 201411 yr Member I loved the mob, but I agree that no 3 characters should dominate a soap opera. You loved the mob but feel no three characters should dominate a soap. How can that be? The very definition of the mob on GH was three characters dominating the soap. So if you loved the mob you therefore loved Sonny, Carly and Jason dominating the soap every day. They no longer do so and consequently this is worse than what you loved.
Ratings for the week May 26-30, 2014