GH: Discussion for the Month of March

[Eric83]

LOL.

IMO, (some of) this stuff worked on OLTL, and yeah GH has been "campy" in the past, but some of this sh-t I have been seeing and hearing has been ridiculous. I am glad I have been MIA for the relish storyline.

[rhinohide]

Maxie/Uterus. Snort.

[Vee]

Those scenes with Sonny and Connie at his place on Thursday(?) were probably the best either of them have had in this entire horrible storyline, I think. And they both did really well and it was actually very well-written, IMO. Because it was honest, none of the other bullshit or camp or jokes. Even Tess and Jessica on OLTL never really had those scenes where someone told her/them/it to cut the [!@#$%^&*] - Natalie and Brody did that once or twice but it was almost always pitched at a different level, where one character was the victim or both were caricatures. Sonny is a very damaged person with a history of mental illness. He should have had this conversation months ago. It's the most I've liked Sonny in years.

The problem is that those scenes should've happened months ago, and they existed in a vacuum. Virtually nothing else in this horrible story, from the beginning to now, has been treated that way. And it's pretty much too late to make Connie fleshed out, in this current form at least - they never even showed the supposed therapy where she 'learned' she was the host personality. On any other show at any other time we'd have seen those scenes, as we did for Viki on OLTL years ago. That's unacceptable. And that's why they need to promote whoever wrote the other day's scenes to a more powerful position.

[Vee]

I think all of it is a problem. RH and LW play the hell out of their scenes and I think they put a lot into it, but - putting aside the fact that the scenes are extremely redundant re: his stories with Blair and Tea in the 90s - the material is written for characters who, like Todd and Blair/Tea on OLTL, have been together for at least a year or five years, ten years and have a wealth of experience with each other. In reality, Todd and Carly had sex and were 'together' for maybe eight hours; as you say, they barely talk about each other's lives or histories. They have never honestly discussed the Blair, Jax, etc. issues - or Sonny, for that matter, who was a constant stumbling block in Carly's long relationship with Jax, and who her bond with ultimately tore them apart. But regardless, Todd/Carly treat each other like they're Barbra and Robert Redford in The Way We Were. That's why it's false. To use horrible geek video gamer parlance, RC's team basically wants to import a save game - they want to apply all that history and just slap it onto Todd and Carly.

I could be actually torn re: these two, given the halfway-decent chemistry (which I still don't think is as hot as Laura's with Sean Kanan, but that's another story) if they wrote something new for them, some new way of relating to each other and reacting that wasn't just replaying Todd's best vintages with no actual background to draw from. Take crossovers in general: I was re-reading Harding Lemay's book, and I'm fairly convinced that when they moved the character of Robert Delaney from spinoff Somerset to Lemay's Another World and put him with AW fan favorite Lenore (Susan Sullivan) they didn't just reheat either character's popular material from their much-beloved prior pairings on their respective shows. They made something new, for the then and there, the here and now. GH is not doing that with Todd and Carly, and due to that weakness as well as having A.J. on the scene, they make Todd and Carly into the 'boring' option for Carly. That should not be possible with Todd Manning. That's why it fails. It's redundant, it's bland, and the rehash and the laziness insults my intelligence. It's not the actors. I don't mind Roger Howarth doing comedy - he's always done some of that. It's that there's nothing else the rest of the time but vanilla.

[AdelaideCate007]

[Vee]

I feel terrible, I have no idea who the guy is. Tom Baldwin?

[alexisfan07]

JMB only has a few days left to air guys. Feels so anticlimactic.

[Vee]

Much like JMB herself.

[Mr. Vixen]

Yep. Here's what happens (some details may not be 100% accurate but this is what I've pieced together from a few reliable sources- and it involves my Bobbie! YAY!):

[rhinohide]

Well. She was never a FrankenRon pet.

I disagree. Love Julie. She hasnt been written for since the hacktini arrived. But I totally see Marcy/Emme whatever being the new focal point. Ron and Frank are the biggest fangurls ever. It's how they roll. Let's see. It wont be the wonder that is pickle relish. Maybe Wolfe will make another appearance.

[MissLlanviewPA]

Dan Rooney, maybe? (Totally guessing here)

[Vee]

Oh, I think you might be right.

[AdelaideCate007]

It is. I was just about to respond but you beat me to it.

[Mr. Vixen]

So much disco.

[rhinohide]

And yet you think the same writing works for John and Sam. John doesn't know Sam screwed both her sister's fathers. John knows nothing of Sam's history of sleeping with men to con them. Sam doesn't know that John's father died when he was a teen Rafe's age. Sam doesnt know that john has a history of rescuing damsels then ditching hem. But you accept that.