That's an awful pick of Lindsay Hartley. She looks like she's playing a SORASED Wednesday for the Addams Family movie

It was so weird we saw it a few times, maybe 3 or 4 times in the last year or so. I think the last time we saw it was when Asher fell down that flight of stairs.

Asher I hope our boy makes a return soon

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The Yacht Club worked my nerves. Give me the Valley Inn any day. And since KWAK is gone may I suggest that we ditch her restaurant and bring back the Goalpost? Maybe we can get an appearance or two out of Tom Cudahy.

I know a part of it is nostalgia... BUT. I really really don't understand the desire in the last maybe 15 years on these shows to replace long standing locations with new ones that seem lesser. The yacht club was before the move, so it wasn't like they needed a new set. It basically took over the function that the Valley Inn's main dinning room seemed to have (well they had that and the little Valley Inn bar, I guess it kinda combined both), but was a blander set and made no sense for a city like Pine Valley. Maybe it was a Frons thing since it seemed to get worse under him (though I can't blame him for the idiotically named Holidays)--but...

This may be a UO but as much as I liked the Chandler mansion, I think that the Chandler Enterprises offices are more necessary. It drove me crazy to see JR, Scott and everyone else conducting business in their house. It was impossible for me to take them seriously.

Hated that too.

He's an up-and comer name you hear a bit about in the musical theatre circles--I didn't know he was on Broadway (though snob that I am I don't consider Rock of Ages to be Broadway ) but has done a lot of regional stuff and off-Broadway. He was the main understudy for all the male leads in last year's Off-Broadway revival of the infamous musical version of Carrie. Seems to have talent.

Here he is singing Tommy's "Poem" song from Carrie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAEuBgN_cT4

Thanks for that info!

I think it was In this photo. It definitely looks like they're sitting in the Chandler mansion..

It was! Thanks.

Jake Boyd who is playing Dylan Wilder

Asher I hope our boy makes a return soon

You mean you & jfung79's boy! LOL.

I have too and you're right. Sometimes it's just a issue of height and wardrobe.

They clearly were at least organized by family in the photo shoot except for a few minor exceptions. It's not a reach to say they were organized by storyline (teens pretty much aligned in back) or potential pairing - paired as enemies, teams, or romantically - in some cases, as well.

BTW, where was Bianca living at the end of the show?

In a hotel room I think at the yacht club.

You mean you & jfung79's boy! LOL.

oh you know you were too scared to admit it.

The show could use another Cortlandt and Chandler. Id love to see he and Petey interact

In a hotel room I think at the yacht club.

actually, she and Marissa bought a house

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I don't particularly watch for romance, either, now that I think about it. When a couple gets together and I like them together, sure, it's fantastic, and I stan hard for them. But I've never really needed relationship stories. Honestly, more often than not, a couple falling out of love is more entertaining than a couple falling in love.

I think it's a dangerous mentality the way some writers (and a lot of fans--but there's no danger there really) and producers focus first and primarily on who has "chemistry", who needs a man, etc, instead of first focusing on characterization, what's missing from a character's life or what kind of motivation or desire do they have (and I don't mean a relationship), etc. I mean if you look at many of the most popular soap couples, they more often than not seem to have had happened kinda accidentally and the writers went with it. Or they are paired up because they have a common story or goal and it comes from the story organically (I don't mean when writers say "so and so looked good in that press photo standing with so and so let's make them a couple so let's have them get locked up in a room together accidentally for a week!")

The show could use another Cortlandt and Chandler. Id love to see he and Petey interact

actually, she and Marissa bought a house

I totally forgot. There was way too much quick-shot crap happening in a 2-3 month period.

They clearly were at least organized by family in the photo shoot except for a few minor exceptions. It's not a reach to say they were organized by storyline (teens pretty much aligned in back) or potential pairing - paired as enemies, teams, or romantically - in some cases, as well.

In a hotel room I think at the yacht club.

Don't tell Jesse that that photo clearly shows that Angie is leaving him.

In all seriousness, I do agree that there's some of that going on--but most of the pairings are more familial, something we already know. I'm sure they have some sort of bible (although many have said that they didn't have time to do the kind of complete bible these shows often would get) and story outline but I think it's too soon to think the writers know who's going to be paired with who, etc.

Thanks for that info!

No prob. Here's one more Carrie song with him. I assume he's just a high school friend, but I appreciate that the high school seems like it won't just have four students--and it's nice to see that some people based in NY theatre are auditioning (or being approached).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U9Sv9dqfsM

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Don't tell Jesse that that photo clearly shows that Angie is leaving him.

For either Bianca or Zach, no less

Speaking of Marissa...I hope she's not dead. I hate the original but came to like SG in the role. It would suck if AJ lost another mother

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I know a part of it is nostalgia... BUT. I really really don't understand the desire in the last maybe 15 years on these shows to replace long standing locations with new ones that seem lesser. The yacht club was before the move, so it wasn't like they needed a new set. It basically took over the function that the Valley Inn's main dinning room seemed to have (well they had that and the little Valley Inn bar, I guess it kinda combined both), but was a blander set and made no sense for a city like Pine Valley. Maybe it was a Frons thing since it seemed to get worse under him (though I can't blame him for the idiotically named Holidays)--but...

After the shows were canceled someone from ABC...I think it might have been Sara Saedi?(former vp of programming) was giving examples of some of the stranger things Frons chose to obsess over, and one of them was in fact getting rid of the Valley Inn because he didn't think that environment was appealing to younger viewers. The other one I remember was he didn't like OLTL's focus on print newspapers because he thought they were dated.

After the shows were canceled someone from ABC...I think it might have been Sara Saedi?(former vp of programming) was giving examples of some of the stranger things Frons chose to obsess over, and one of them was in fact getting rid of the Valley Inn because he didn't think that environment was appealing to younger viewers. The other one I remember was he didn't like OLTL's focus on print newspapers because he thought they were dated.

I'd love to read more things like that--but both examples make complete sense. Almost all of the main locations put in place during Frons' decade on AMC were cheap looking attempts at being trendy or something.

For either Bianca or Zach, no less

Speaking of Marissa...I hope she's not dead. I hate the original but came to like SG in the role. It would suck if AJ lost another mother

Or David, another kid... I liked her in the role too. I'm in no rush to have her on, right now, but I agree.