Members reallyhateskateonlost Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/08/showbiz/tv/influential-tv-shows/index.html (CNN) -- The most influential show in the history of television never finished a season among the 20 most popular programs in the Nielsen ratings. In its most popular season, "Hill Street Blues," which ran from 1981 to 1987, came in 21st place. And yet, according to a group of veteran TV critics and college professors who study the media, it was the TV series that most changed the direction of television programming. Meanwhile, other series such as "ER" and "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation," both monster hits that were the most popular shows in several seasons, failed to get even one mention from the panel of a dozen professional TV watchers queried by CNN. In all, 46 shows were cited as having a strong influence on TV but none was mentioned as often as "Hill Street Blues." That NBC series "paved the way for TV drama to grow up and be truly adult," said Matt Roush, TV critic at TV Guide Magazine. It was "the prototype for a serious complex view of inner-city crime," added Elayne Rapping, professor of American studies and media studies at the State University of New York. Others cited its large diverse cast at a time when this was a rarity and said it laid the groundwork for complex network dramas. Here are the next most influential shows chosen by the panel: 2. (tie) "I Love Lucy" This is the show that pioneered the multicamera approach to situation comedies, said Ken Tucker, TV critic for Entertainment Weekly. It created "the template for all sitcoms to come," added Neal Justin of the StarTribune in Minneapolis. 2. (tie) "The Sopranos" Up until it got on the air, "nobody had ever tried to make a show in which the protagonist was not merely unsympathetic, but actually evil," said Glenn Garvin of The Miami Herald. "Now, from 'Dexter' to 'Sons of Anarchy,' it's a common practice." 4. "The Tonight Show" Whether with Steve Allen or Johnny Carson, it "established the model for late-night talk comedy programming still in use today," said Robert J. Thompson, professor of television and popular culture at Syracuse University. 5. (tie) "All in the Family" It set a standard for sitcoms because "it managed to mirror all the tensions and contradictions, both essential and timely, of life in America while it boldly addressed a time of great political change," said Mary McNamara, TV critic for the Los Angeles Times. 5. (tie) "Survivor" Though it premiered in the summer, said Mark Dawidziak of the Plain Dealer in Cleveland, its huge success "led to the reality boom of the last 12 years and paved the way for series like 'American Idol' and 'Dancing With the Stars.' " 7. (tie) "The Cosby Show" Not only was this the top-rated show for five consecutive seasons but panelists give it credit for reviving the situation comedy and for being the first series to feature a family headed by black professionals. 7. (tie) "60 Minutes" This long-running show finished in first place for three consecutive seasons, establishing the format for all TV newsmagazines to come. Meanwhile, says Dave Walker of the Times-Picayune in New Orleans, "it inadvertently turned TV news from a public service into a profit center." 7. (tie) "Friends" Panel members praised its fresh approach to ensemble comedy, which looked deceptively simple. "It made network executives think that any show built around five or six attractive people would be a hit," said Maureen Ryan, TV critic for AOL. 10. (tie) "The Today Show" It invented morning television and woke up network executives to the profit potential at that time of day. 10. (tie) "American Idol" Though TV had amateur talent shows before, such as "Star Search" and "Arthur Godfrey's Talent Scouts," this series demonstrated the enormous potential of the genre. Several panelists gave a nod to MTV's "Real World" for creating the modern reality show in which nonactors are placed in pre-planned situations. Other shows receiving honorable mention for their influence on the TV industry: "M*A*S*H," "The Simpsons," "The Mary Tyler Moore Show," "Law & Order," "Lost," "Your Show of Shows," "The Milton Berle Show," "Sesame Street," "The Shield," "American Bandstand" and the UK original version of "The Office." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted March 9, 2012 Members Share Posted March 9, 2012 I don't think The Sopranos ever really tried to make Tony evil, or even overly unsympathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted March 10, 2012 Members Share Posted March 10, 2012 They might have gotten this right. Before HILL STREET cop shows were Quinn/Martin type productions like Barnaby Jones, Mannix or Cannon. I think the show I would have added to this list would have been Dallas. Prior to Dallas seasons ended with just another episode. Dallas introduced the season cliffhanger and now every show from drama to comedy employs that and some form of serialization. Both Friends and The Sopranos followed the serialized path to one extent or another. The show I would remove is The Cosbys. While it did revive the sitcom, it was Seinfeld that pioneered the urban hip sitcom obsession that lasted for all those years. The entire NBC line up eventually was patterned after Seinfeld and Friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted March 10, 2012 Members Share Posted March 10, 2012 I think Dallas and Dynasty were influential for how the rest of the world perceives America because those shows were sensational hits across the world at a time just before cable television slaughtered the influence of limited network television. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted March 10, 2012 Members Share Posted March 10, 2012 It seems a really myopic list, though I think Hill Street Blues does deserve its credit, even if I've never fallen into it. Sopranoes (a show, admittedly, I really grew to not like) did help getting tv viewed as comparable or even better than movies, though I think its influence has been rather small, it's more the pinacle of shows that led up to it. Damn straight. This is the most ridiculous, yet constant, mis-conception about the show. Even as far as anti-heroes go he was barely one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members I Am A Swede Posted March 10, 2012 Members Share Posted March 10, 2012 Dallas was absolutely monumental here, on a scale I doubt will ever be repeated. Dynasty however was a flop and went off the air after the third season. Instead it was Falcon Crest that caught on and became almost as popular as Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted March 12, 2012 Members Share Posted March 12, 2012 I think you're talking about 2 eras of sitcoms. Friends is the show I think doesn't belong because it was Seinfeld that set the tone for the non traditional hip sitcom. Cosby was important. It revitalized not only sitcoms but the entire NBC lineup. Must see TV started with Thursday nights anchored by The Cosby Show which helped shows like Cheers and Nightcourt get established. It also reestablished family centric sitcoms. Every network had a knockoff and NBC even had a couple.Forget the social implications of an African American family being shown as professionally successful and educated for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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