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GH: Classic Thread

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Full episodes from October 1982 have popped up, with Sammy Davis Jr as Bryan's dad. Gerald Gordon as Mark Dante is his doctor. This is the most I've seen of Gordon as a doctor on GH. He has scenes with Steve, Robert. I miss the screaming he used to do as Nick Bellini on The Doctors. His scenes with Steve Hardy aren't as loud as his ones with The Doctor's Matt Powers.

Gordon would have been better on The Doctors during its last months, but I think they killed off his character in 1981 for no reason, maybe out of spite? Or mostly to give the returning Althea a reason to mope around more.

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The Decline and Fall of the Monty Empire

Week 13 (March 24-28, 1986)

Bryan, seeing Claudia and Lorena at Kelly's: "Hi. What are you doing here?"

Lorena: "Lookin' for a couple of sailors, Bryan. Get out of here, you're screwin' up our action."

I haven't yet finished my work week, so this weekend's post is going to be a little lazy, mostly stray observations rather than breaking things up by the stories.

-- Overall, this was a strong week. Yes, Laurelton took up most of the airtime, but the stories were intertwined pretty well. It's things like a hearing of the GH board over disciplining Patrick nearly resulting in Alan and Edward coming closer to the truth about Sean and Monica, or Ginny's tough love attitude with Mike being one of the reasons Tony says he's glad to not have kids at exactly the moment Tania's going to tell him she's pregnant. Only one story sticks out like a sore thumb.

-- Monday's episode included the unintentional comedy of what felt like Felicia talking-navigating-pushing Terry through the five stages of grief while Terry mourns Jennifer.

-- Anna's smart enough to play the long game, but I think she could have gloated a little about how if it wasn't for her grace in not revealing his pressure to wrap up the Brownstone-Laurelton case, and how the delay got Jennifer killed, Mayor Morgan could have been humiliated.

-- Felicia quickly begging Frisco to get married, and have a baby, and have a regular family made me wonder how Kristina Wagner would have done as Honey in Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?

-- The Brownstone will probably never be as fascinating as it is now. As the week goes on, it's pretty much everyone against Patrick -- like I said, you'd think Bobbie would be more sympathetic considering she was falsely accused of murder the year before -- but to me it feels like there's two camps. We've got the splintered Laurelton four and the united Jones including Felicia. By virtue of her family ties, Bobbie should probably be another Laurelton splinter, but she and Jake seem slightly above the fray.

-- Jimmy Lee has decided that Celia walking out on him was really about greed. According to JL, Celia didn't want to share her renewed fortune. Seeing him in that compromising position with Pilar just gave Celia an excuse to split. It doesn't jibe with what we saw on screen, but then again, we were kept at a distance from Celia during her final episodes. Anyway, the point of Jimmy Lee's rationalization is so that there's still more weight to Monica's crisis over whether she can stay a Quartermaine.

-- In the long run, Lorena made the right choice with Derek, but I can't blame her for making ABSOLUTELY SURE that there was no more chance of hooking up with Jimmy Lee. The guy's so tan, he's almost the color of a raisin.

-- Different times: Alan coming into Monica's room without her consent and while she's half asleep, followed by her kicking him out, being played for comedy.

-- I'm quite positive that had Jack Wagner not left in 1987, there would have been a Frisco & Felicia kid that year or in 1988. This caused me to consider the ripple effect and wonder if in that timeline, B.J. still lives and Maxie doesn't exist. If the F&F kid's a boy, does Lucas still exist?

-- Just to clarify, Tania does tell Tony, and he is thrilled to become a dad. It's all just so, so sad in hindsight.

-- Thursday's episode has a nice, non-comedy use of Amy, sharing information about the parking situation at GH and acting as a sort of secretary for Anna.

-- I get that Jake's sticking up for his client, Patrick, but he hit below the belt with Anna on Thursday. Questioning her abilities as a mother and breadwinner is bad enough, but then things get even more personal.

Jake "And you haven't got a man in your bed. I don't believe I said that, but I'm not sorry. Because I care for you, Anna, and I hate to see you become what you're becoming."

Anna didn't say anything especially notable when she let Jake have it, but I'm glad she let him have it. Seriously, when this story is over, Anna deserves to tell a whole bunch of people to kiss her British bum.

-- Okay, here's the sore thumb moment. It's Bryan and Claudia's half-minute of marital bliss, then continued angst, all happening at the spa. It almost feels like filler after Jimmy Lee rebuffs Lorena, then Ginny gives an update on Mike. Claudia learns that Bryan went with Mike to a basketball game (Derek's also using the tough love approach), and she's happy ... until Debbie comes over and reveals she went with the guys. Apparently Debbie's going to hang around until at least the summer. I can't wait to see what other storylines she, Bryan, and Claudia will be dropped into.

-- Friday's episode ends with Anna's surprise arrest of Kevin. It turns out that Red Flynn happened to see Kevin and Jennifer arguing at the airport. I assume Lucy's going to get mentioned for the first time next week. Before that, GH teases Lucy's eventual storyline when a nurse suggests that her friend who went out with Patrick write a tell-all.

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Were Bryan and Claudia ever written as regular people? It seems like the writers were never color blind when it came to writing them, rather indulging in some ridiculous stereotypes with them.

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9 hours ago, Jdee43 said:

Were Bryan and Claudia ever written as regular people? It seems like the writers were never color blind when it came to writing them, rather indulging in some ridiculous stereotypes with them.

I think the problem is that the show rarely had an interest in developing Bryan and Claudia beyond being "the friends." Every time I watch one of their scenes, I figure that an episode had a couple of minutes to kill or the show's fulfilling contractual obligations.

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6 minutes ago, Franko said:

That top right panel is a shining example of smell the fart acting.

I'm always happy to see soap-related content on accounts like that, although I know Jack was only getting the strip due to his music career.

I forgot to say thanks for your latest writeup. Glad to see the buildup to Lucy. Tony and Tania learning of her pregnancy breaks my heart. Bryan and Claudia - I wonder if they would even be getting as much 'story' as they are if this wasn't a period where more soaps were trying to give black character scraps (about half or a little over half). I'd say it's hard to believe they'd been on the show for about 8 years until I remember the state of the current black GH canvas.

I can't believe what Jake said to Anna. Maybe I should praise the show for realism, as some people are that blunt and callous toward single women, but I wish she'd cold-cocked him.

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4 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I can't believe what Jake said to Anna. Maybe I should praise the show for realism, as some people are that blunt and callous toward single women, but I wish she'd cold-cocked him.

I know, right? Part of me wants to pretend I can just smugly laugh it off as, "Oh, the bad old days," but this type of stuff's still going on. And considering GH would eventually go all-in on Anna's lovelife, I guess we're supposed to believe Jake was at least somewhat in the right with what he said.

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Gloria Monty's GH was not a classy show. She'd go for whatever she thought a broad audience would laugh at and enjoy, no matter how silly or low brow.

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MVJ wished GH a happy 63rd today on IG. She pointedly notes she "spent 10 of the best years of my life there #iykyk". MVJ was there from '93 to 2012. An interesting thing to ponder.

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45 minutes ago, Vee said:

MVJ wished GH a happy 63rd today on IG. She pointedly notes she "spent 10 of the best years of my life there #iykyk". MVJ was there from '93 to 2012. An interesting thing to ponder.

Well we know she loved Labine and Guza, and is still publicly close with Bob Guza and Wendy Riche.

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50 minutes ago, Vee said:

MVJ wished GH a happy 63rd today on IG. She pointedly notes she "spent 10 of the best years of my life there #iykyk". MVJ was there from '93 to 2012. An interesting thing to ponder.

JFP:

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22 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Well we know she loved Labine and Guza, and is still publicly close with Bob Guza and Wendy Riche.

I assume it had to do with the Frons regime.

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The Decline and Fall of the Monty Empire

Week 14 (March 31-April 4, 1986) -- Part I

Monica, to Edward: "How dare you fly in the face of truth! ... And is it too painful for you to admit the fact that we've been swindled, that you have risked this entire family's fortune?"

Alan: "Well said, Monica."

Edward: "Your eloquence proves nothing."

Monica: "But your pigheadedness proves everything, Edward."

Laurelton: Oh, if only Terry, Bobbie, and Felicia heard what Monica's saying. Most of the Brownstone ladies are insufferable this week. What infuriates me is that I'm certain there's not going to be moments where any or all of them come to terms with the fact that they were deceived and behaved irrationally. I hope I'm wrong.

Anyway, most of the week's devoted to whether Jake will defend Kevin. He finally agrees on Friday, which means we have to have scene after scene of a begging and pleading Terry, an aggressive Bobbie, and a childish Felicia. I'm watching with an interest in finding the seams of Kevin's scheme; surely his insistence on being defending by Jake should have raised some eyebrows? Hell, Anna and Frisco end the week respectfully in opposite camps when he leaves her side (but not the police itself) after deciding he's got a conflict of interest. Jake could have done the same, or at least have been prohibited from taking Kevin's case.

Kevin wants Jake, by the way, because he's of the people and isn't well-known as a defense attorney. For his part, Ted is competent but apparently not capable of getting the job done. It's funny that these episodes aired in the spring of 1986, before the premiere of Matlock and new life for the Simple Country Lawyer trope.

Patrick: "Look, I don't think Jennifer Talbot had a real friend in Laurelton. Except maybe Ted Holmes." The O'Connor bros scoff and chuckle over this like d-bags.

In the midst of this, we get some awkward comedy when Kevin's professor can't immediately find the attendance sheet for March 17.

Back to Kevin's scheme ... by the time it's proven that he wasn't in class on the day Jennifer died, he's repeatedly insisted he was in the library and a librarian can vouch for him. Lucy is named for the first time on Tuesday. She's away for Spring Break. Less than two weeks until Lucy's arrival, and just over three until the reveal.

Frisco's personal conflict this week is about whether he has what it takes to be a cop. He and Sam are among the cadets on probation. Captain Lewis, who's on his way out at the police academy*, vows to make sure they absolutely know the penal code. Frisco's determined to do right by Lewis, and he also insists on sticking to his goal. Once he's got his first check as a police officer, then he'll get a marriage license and wed Felicia.

*I have no clue what this was about, if GH figured Don Dolan had run his course and would no longer need him after the cadets story, or if they wanted to move Dolan to more scenes with Finola, Bob, and eventually Tristan.

Soap Opera Digest recaps from this period were really the pits. Describing Sheriff Broder coming on Ginny's show to criticize Anna, SOD made it sound like Ginny had no integrity at all. That's not the case in the actual scenes. Yes, Ginny could have pushed back more against what Broder said, but she did ask questions and generally let the hick hang himself.

I still wonder why the people of Port Charles care so much about the Brownstone-Laurelton murders, or if they actually do. Lucy's library supervisor apparently isn't keeping up with the story, but on the other hand, an old lady in the park calls out Anna while she's taking Robin to school. Friday's episode also has Buzz making a televised statement supporting Anna. It's pretaped, so he can watch it with Anna, Robin, and Filomenta. Nice job, Buzz, now ask Anna out while you still can!

Speaking of Anna, she and Robin have a nice scene on Friday when Anna explains that even though her job means people will disagree with her, it's okay to have disagreements. Robin also shouldn't go around punching her classmates while defending her mom. I just really liked Finola and Kimberly's chemistry together.

As this storyline's gone on, I've lost a lot of patience with Bobbie. I keep wondering if the story just doesn't work, or if it doesn't work because Bobbie's in a role that she's just not right for. Could it have worked 20 years later with Lucas rather than Terry? Anyway, Terry caught me off guard on Friday. Not only is she ugly-crying and running her mascara nearly as badly as Tammy Faye Bakker, but:

Terry: "Jake, I think you have forgotten something. Before I got my head on straight, I was starvin' for love. Do you remember? When I crawled into your bed? You were so kind, and understanding, and you talked to me. You told me that someday I'd be able to find the man that would love me. And in order ... in order to get love, I would have to learn to love. You said something like that. Do you remember?"

I'm assuming Bobbie never found out about this.

The week ends with Kevin vowing to sell his Purity Water stock, part of a bequest from Jennifer, to fund a hospital in her name. That, plus the lack of a clear motive for why Kevin would kill Earl Moody or Neil Johnson, not to mention the harassment he's been getting all week, is good enough for Jake to defend Kevin. Kevin's going to trial, Frisco's also been whipped into acting on Kevin's behalf, and Anna accepts this. Devane and Jones say they'll be friendly. If either party finds something that would prove the other's right, they won't conceal it.

Bobbie: "Well, nobody seems to have noticed that a very important event has just taken place here in Jake's office. ... All of us Brownstoners are one big happy family once again." Group hug.

Man, f*ck you, Bobbie.

(Part II will be about Sean Swindles the Quartermaines, Mike's Paternity, and Bryan and Claudia, which actually isn't a total afterthought this week!)

@DRW50, @titan1978, @Vee, @carolineg, @Jdee43, @dc11786, @Khan -- After all this time, I finally realized I should tag people.

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