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The golden days of AMC and OLTL were in the 80's when alot of people who are currently in their 30's and 40's were watching so I do agree that that was why more people took notice of the cancellations. ATWT and GL golden days were in the 60's and 70's, and come on we all known the ABC soaps have more staunch fans than the CBS soaps. GL didn't deserve to be picked up the show was dead, Idon't understand the point in hating on other soaps. We should glad anybody is interested in saving them.

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I concede that you're correct on this point. However, the same definitely cannot be said about ATWT and AW. (Although obviously continuing a show on the internet wasn't feasible back when AW was cancelled.)

But, in my opinion, AMC is just as dead as was GL. (OLTL, on the other hand, still has life left in it.) First came the unabortion followed by death by pancakes followed by even more stupid storylines, which forever ruined the show's credibility. Then, the final nail in the coffin came with the move to Los Angeles: as a result, we had to get used to new sets and are now are constantly bombarded with those idiotic park scenes (that are a dead giveaway that Pine Valley is really a place in Southern California). Really, the move to Los Angeles was just as devastating to AMC as was GL's move to Peapack. (And, for this, Frons certainly deserves to be trashed.)

AMC needs to be put out of its misery now, just as badly as GL needed to be put out of its misery back in 2009. While I have previously stated that GL's cancellation was a mercy killing, I have seen very few AMC fans express similar sentiments in regards to its 2011 cancellation (or lament the fact that it now gets to continue--and will likely get even worse--for years to come).

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Agreed and ATWT also had golden days in the 80's with Marland writing. The whole thing about AMC and OLTL golden days is pure bullshit...Hell even Y&R 80's was golden....All this has nothing to do with why ABC soaps went online.

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Umm Marland's ATWT maybe critically praised but it didn't have the ratings to back it up. The ABC soaps were powerhouses in the 80's and had a lot of younger viewers. You can go see that GH, AMC, OLTL were the top 3 soaps from 1980 to 1986 or 7, so it isn't bullshit. Also you know ABC has a larger fanbase than the CBS soaps did. When the P&G soaps ended people got mad, but got over it clearly with the ABC cancellations people fought harder and the cancellations got more coverage and this must have clearly intrigued Prospect Park because they licensed them.

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1. General Hospital 8.3

2. The Young And The Restless 8.0

3. One Life To Live 7.2

4. All My Children 7.0

4. Days Of Our Lives 7.0

4. As The World Turns 7.0

7. Guiding Light 6.3

8. The Bold And The Beautiful 5.6

9. Capitol 5.2

10. Another World 5.1

11. Santa Barbara 4.2

12. Loving 3.9

13. Ryan's Hope 2.7

14. Search for Tomorrow 2.5

There's not much of a difference between ATWT ratings and OLTL. In fact they are tied with AMC. So AMC and OLTL having Golden 80s dont hold up. Cause they werent the only ones.

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LOL you would pick that one year but leave out the rest of the 80's.

1980-1981

  • 1. General Hospital 11.4 (14 million viewers)
  • 2. All My Children 9.1
  • 2. One Life to Live 9.1
  • 4. Guiding Light 8.2
  • 5. As the World Turns 7.9

    1981-1982
    • 1. General Hospital 11.2 (averaged 13.8 million viewers according to David Gritten of People Weekly)
    • 2. All My Children 9.4 (10 million viewers)
    • 3. One Life to Live 9.3
    • 4. Guiding Light 8.0
    • 5. The Young and the Restless 7.4
    • 5. As the World Turns 7.4

      1982-1983
      • 1. General Hospital 9.8 (11.4 million viewers)
      • 2. All My Children 9.4
      • 3. One Life to Live 8.1
      • 4. The Young and the Restless 8.0
      • 5. As the World Turns 7.6

      1983-1984

        [*]1. General Hospital 10.0 (11.3 million viewers)

        [*]2. All My Children 9.1

        [*]3. The Young and the Restless 8.8

        [*]4. One Life to Live 8.2

        [*]5. Guiding Light 8.1

        [*]6. As the World Turns 7.9

        1984-1985

          [*]1. General Hospital 9.1 (10.7 million viewers)

          [*]2. All My Children 8.2

          [*]3. The Young and the Restless 8.1

          [*]4. Guiding Light 7.5

          [*]5. One Life to Live 7.3

          [*]6. As the World Turns 7.1

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I didn't say they were bad, but ABC was HUGE in the 80's. AMC and GH especially, the shows were hugely popular amongst college students who are now the adults in their 30's and 40's. They may not have been watching in 2011, but when the AMC/OLTL cancellations they paid attention and noticed unlike ATWT and GL. GL was my first soap so it's not like I being an ABC fan boy. It's just the way it is.

What other reason were the shows picked up other than the massive interest and coverage of the cancelations unlike the P&G shows?

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And again I say WTF does Golden Years of the 80s have to do with anything. Dallas..Dynasty..etc were golden too and they are all gone....your golden comment is still meaningless.

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Watching Eric post ratings from over a quarter of a century ago--and then pretend that his beloved ABC soaps are still "hip" and "contemporary"--is absolutely laughable. The fact of the matter is that AMC's and OLTL's horrendous current ratings merited their demise, regardless of the number of rants against Frons/ABC/Disney or the number of Hoovers bought.

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I don't see a connection between the ABC situation and the CBS situation. ABC fans in the internet age have always been more vocal and more rabid (for lack of a better word). That's just the undisputed truth. And many of those ABC fans never tuned into ATWT or GL and had little or nothing invested in them. It'd be nice if everyone cared about the whole genre and got fired up when any soap gets canceled, but that's just not how it is. I mean...where was the outcry when Port Charles was axed?

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