Members EricMontreal22 Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 Oddly about Jordan Charney--he was a temporary replacement for Phil only, but had worked with Agnes on AW as Sam Lucas (and went to Somerset), and then was Vince Wolek on OLTL from 75-77 which seems bizarre to me--I would never have cast the same actor as Vince as Phil--as well as returning to AMC briefly as Mr Bodine... I remember him most as Jack's boss on Three's Company, which makes me think he was more of a Vince than a Charlie... . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 Eileen was on from the start to about 1976. Patricia Roe, whom we saw, played her until 1972. IMDB says Alice Hirson was the third, but other sources list her as the second, and last, Eileen from 72-76. I am mortified because I thought Alice was dead, and had told people this over the last few years, only to see she's still alive and acting. It's fascinating in these episodes how Ruth has to try to keep people from flying off the handle. She's just no-nonsense, even in the face of this huge lie. It's a shame that the fallout was never fully explored, since Amy and Ted were gone quickly. I wish they'd cast someone like Dolph Sweet as Ted Brent. This Ted struggles badly with his lines. I loved that Ruth/Amy phone call that was a split-screen! I didn't know they could do that on soaps in 1970. That dream was a trip. I wish we could see it in color. It's very effective, especially the "trial." ABC soaps seemed to enjoy doing this - Dark Shadows got crazier and crazier with this over time. I guess Marion was Linell Conway's mother. Christina Pickles played Linell. So pickled Marion was mother to Pickles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 Who was the first Linc? Kevin McCarthy? He looks kind of like Nick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 It does seem that by 1975, I guess with Nixon gone, OLTL lost, or were starting to lose, a lot of their more quirky (and of course ethnic) characters, even though it seems like it still was faily solid, if not groundbreaking, soap, till it started to climb again. Patricia Roe doesn't have many screen credits, though Nixon mayhave known her from GL. I don't think I've seen Alice's soap work, though I do remember her as Ellen's mom on Ellen. I am pretty sure (but it's just conjecture on my part), that Ted would have been recast if Agnes hadn't known he would be quickly killed off from the start--he stumbles over his lines in all the clips I've seen (there's a lot more of him in that Daytime to Remember episode where Erica has her speech, and Phil collapses in his place--with some hysterical/great dizzy visual effects--from a gas leak). I guess split screens became possible as soon as they were no longer live, though you don't see a lot of it in older soaps. And yes, the dream would be even better in colour (I picture a lot of psychedelic effects...) I love that kind of stuff--of course even those old 1950 GL radio episodes of GL have some relatively out there nightmare and dream sequences with echoing voices, shrill organ music, etc. But it did seem to be more an ABC soap thing back then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) Lincoln Tyler (James Karen, 1970; Paul Dumont, 1971; Nicholas Pryor (1971); Peter White (1974–2005) is what Wiki says. I believe the 1971 episode that aired during the first I Love Lucci marathon has one of the second Lincs, but they seemed ot have trouble with casting him until White returned as the new Linc. James Karen has a decent resume there. He looks more familiar from his character actor work in the 80s--when he was Pathmark spokesman and was in Poltergeist, etc He was a good 15 years older than Peter White, which may have been part of the issue. Edited October 7, 2011 by EricMontreal22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 James Karen. That's right. I knew he looked familar. I think I remember him from Golden Girls. He does seem miscast as Linc. I didn't realize White came in that many years later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) Yeah, Linc moved away for a while. Karan certainly would have been too old (IMHO) for Kitty/Kelly... (and less than ten years Ruth Warrick's junior but I guess that's less of an issue). Did they ever mention the name of Chuck's parents who died before the show in a crash, which is why Charles and Phoebe were looking after their grandson? Edited October 7, 2011 by EricMontreal22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 Linc was played by James Karen,who had previously been on ATWT as Susan's father.He was 47 at the time.Paul Dumont took over in 1970 until 71 Then Nicholas Pryor in 71,who was 36,so the character was de-aged, Linc was dropped and returned in 74 played by Peter White who at the time was 37. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 Are there pics of all the Lincs? I've seen some of at least one of the two '71 ones. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 Paul Dumont 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 Thanks! He's the one I remember in the I Love Lucci marathon (as you can guess from that photo). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHkeMCDR8mg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 Peter White 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricMontreal22 Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) In this clip Charles talks to Kate (the same first Kate actress I think, who comes off better here) about the death of Chuck's father--I forgot Phoebe was his step mom, not mother like with Linc and Ann. Was Paul Martin presumed dead when the show started--Kate mentions how he wasn't a prisoner of war, but is dead. Edited October 7, 2011 by EricMontreal22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 1982 pic of Nic Pryor (with Tom Cruise!) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted October 7, 2011 Members Share Posted October 7, 2011 James Karen in 65 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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