2 minutes ago, kalbir said:

@DRW50 That I don't know, but I thought P&G carrying contracts would explain the actors moving among the shows.

It could, yes.

I may be wrong but I recall Tom Eplin. who moved from AW to ATWT immediately upon AW's cancellation, had a contract outside of AW-with P&G itself. Am I correct or did ATWT just take on Jake (and others briefly) to try and attract AW viewers looking for a new show.

In the case of the Texas actors moving to GL, I don't think there were any contracts involved. Rather it was Gail Kobe/Pam Long creating new characters and using actors they knew from the previous show.

This happens when producers/writers move to a new show. Doug Marland used a number of GL performers when he went to ATWT eg Lisa Brown, Rita Lloyd, Greg Beecroft etc

The rumor was that Eplin signed a pay or play contract, knowing that AW was in danger. That's why he wound up at ATWT. Sigh---GL could've had him. I did not like him.

There was a lot of shared actors between the P&G shows through the years. Yes, Marland used a lot of people from GL (Shipp, Brown, Beecroft, Hendrickson to name a few) but Maeve and Kathleen Widdoes were both on AW; Bev of course, Anna Stuart did GL/AW/ATWT, and Rebecca Hollen did ATWT/GL/AW then back to ATWT.

Mark Pinter was GL, then ATWT, AW and back as a new character on GL.

James Rebhorn was on GL, then ATWT, then back to ATWT as a different character for an episode or two in 2010.

Personally, I liked Jake and Molly on ATWT. I watched AW from 85-90, so seeing that character again was a blast from the past. Cass was my favorite AW character-- he represented Carmen Santos for an episode or two. Cass Winthrop (AW, ATWT, GL) was right up there with Mitchell Dru (The Brighter Day, As the World Turns, Another World).

Just finished May 1993 with the reset happening after most of the big secrets came out.

It was interesting watching the decision to put Peter with Billy/Van knowing what happens. That custody battle was pretty inevitable I feel like-Bridget was basically Peter's mom when Nadine was pretending to be and formed such a tight bond. She was really making a long-term decision based on short-term factors which is completely understandable for a teenager who has a shaky support system. I think Van was fully committed to raising Peter, but I think when she agreed to marry Billy and help raise Peter that she thought Bridget was going to decide to keep him. It was interesting watching Van struggle with agreeing to raising a baby at her age knowing she's going to decide to have another kid years down the line.

I really love Bridget with Michelle. It's a shame that they largely dropped that connection post Michelle SORAS. They should've had a sister-like relationship. It's funny but I feel like the Maureen death decision was a huge blow but at least shook up character connections to pick up the pieces, but in a weird way they just decided to completely obliterate all connections around Ed who weren't his kids once Eve died. There might be stray scenes, but I feel like post-Eve there's very little Ed with Bridget/AM/Blake outside of Ed being stuck in the middle of the two fathers twins story.

Holly made her pitch to join the Journal to get a fresh start to Fletcher (too bad about where THAT goes), AM and Nick. I like how it seems random but Holly actually is the perfect partner for them in understanding both business and journalism-so often these business pairings don't even make any sense at all. AM seemed mostly on board but then was fully on board once Holly overheard Blake saying AM/Blake slept together at the cabin so he could keep Holly from telling Ross. AM suggests that at this point Blake should strongly consider telling Ross herself, but of course she says she can't do this and we shall see this exact same scenario over and over for years.

Nick is mad that AM agreed to Holly's investment and AM is cryptic about the reasons, though it's funny because all he really needed to tell Nick is that Nick had told him he had no interest in the business side of things. Nick and Holly fly to Tulsa for some computer negotiation (where Mindy is at Cross Creek and Holly calls him on his sudden interest in computer negotiations) and the whole thing shows Holly's competence and connections but Nick just keeps throwing her absences at WSPR post Blake/Ross in her face. For a supposedly brilliant reporter who really connects with people as a strength per the lore, it's always comical to me how Nick pretty consistently lacks empathy. That being said, I would much rather have seen a Nick/Holly dalliance than the Fletcher/Holly relationship haha

This plot line also sets in motion Spaulding getting the WSPR half as Holly convinces Jenna to buy it so she can keep closer tabs on Roger over at WSPR like she can at Spaulding. I actually sort of love how Spaulding by 1995 has a major piece of all of Springfield's media as it's weirdly topical in today's world of all things.

GL95 - The Peter custody battle is on slow-burner until about October/November of 1993. It's a good story throughout and peaks in early 1994 (Curlee's last story). The baby/tot who portrayed Peter is phenomenal. Seems to know he's on stage and very rarely interrupts the scene. I always was pretty enamored with that little kid. So were the actors! You see him a fair amount from 1993-1995.

Three notable stories coming your way in Summer 1993: MacCauley West (an ill-conceived misfire), Cliff House (good) and Kat/David (also good). There's an actor you'll be introduced to soon (Kevin McClatchey) whom I liked. Too bad he wasn't a three-year contract signing.

1 minute ago, Speed Racer said:

GL95 - The Peter custody battle is on slow-burner until about October/November of 1993. It's a good story throughout and peaks in early 1994 (Curlee's last story). The baby/tot who portrayed Peter is phenomenal. Seems to know he's on stage and very rarely interrupts the scene. I always was pretty enamored with that little kid. So were the actors! You see him a fair amount from 1993-1995.

Three notable stories coming your way in Summer 1993: MacCauley West (an ill-conceived misfire), Cliff House (good) and Kat/David (also good). There's an actor you'll be introduced to soon (Kevin McClatchey) whom I liked. Too bad he wasn't a three-year contract signing.

Oh, yeah - Bridget and Dollface are great together. I remember when AlwaysAMC discounted Rachel Miner's Michelle as morose and uninteresting. I'm willing to bet that that opinion will change.

10 minutes ago, Speed Racer said:

Three notable stories coming your way in Summer 1993:

Lets not forget MZ Emmy-winning episode.

19 minutes ago, Speed Racer said:

GL95 - The Peter custody battle is on slow-burner until about October/November of 1993. It's a good story throughout and peaks in early 1994 (Curlee's last story). The baby/tot who portrayed Peter is phenomenal. Seems to know he's on stage and very rarely interrupts the scene. I always was pretty enamored with that little kid. So were the actors! You see him a fair amount from 1993-1995.

Three notable stories coming your way in Summer 1993: MacCauley West (an ill-conceived misfire), Cliff House (good) and Kat/David (also good). There's an actor you'll be introduced to soon (Kevin McClatchey) whom I liked. Too bad he wasn't a three-year contract signing.

I’ve actually seen 1994-I revisited GL on a lark because I was curious to rewatch Brent/Marion & Lucy/AM as it was the primary story along with Reva’s return when I first started watching and was on a nostalgia kick. I decided to go back to 1994 to fill in gaps initially then went all the way back to June 1990 after discovering these boards. So I’m getting close to caught up which makes me a bit sad. I am definitely not rewatching the back half of 1994 again which I think Is my least favorite period of what I’ve watched, though 1996 certainly is in close competition post Brent/Marion conclusion especially once Rick Hearst leaves making the Spaulding drama be Philip and the Recasts. (I basically went 1994-early 1997 and decided going further back to fill in gaps seemed a lot more enjoyable than a rewatch of the late 90s.)

1 hour ago, Speed Racer said:

Oh, yeah - Bridget and Dollface are great together. I remember when AlwaysAMC discounted Rachel Miner's Michelle as morose and uninteresting. I'm willing to bet that that opinion will change.

Rachel Miner is so good during this period. She’s so torn up between losing her mother and instinctively covering for Ed for something she doesn’t fully understand. It’s eating her alive but she knows it will blow things up for her dad if she ever says anything about Lilian.

42 minutes ago, GL95 said:

I’ve actually seen 1994-I revisited GL on a lark because I was curious to rewatch Brent/Marion & Lucy/AM as it was the primary story along with Reva’s return when I first started watching and was on a nostalgia kick. I decided to go back to 1994 to fill in gaps initially then went all the way back to June 1990 after discovering these boards. So I’m getting close to caught up which makes me a bit sad. I am definitely not rewatching the back half of 1994 again which I think Is my least favorite period of what I’ve watched, though 1996 certainly is in close competition post Brent/Marion conclusion especially once Rick Hearst leaves making the Spaulding drama be Philip and the Recasts. (I basically went 1994-early 1997 and decided going further back to fill in gaps seemed a lot more enjoyable than a rewatch of the late 90s.)

Love your 1993 recap - I'm so excited to watch all of that.

So what's your plan after you catch up?? :)

14 minutes ago, alwaysAMC said:

Love your 1993 recap - I'm so excited to watch all of that.

So what's your plan after you catch up?? :)

Thanks! I’m enjoying the walk down memory lane of your late 90s recaps but definitely excited to get your takes on these earlier periods-there’s lots of good stuff.

I think I’ll check out what I can of 1989 and maybe 1984. I might do a rewatch again of what I like of 94 and skip to 95 some-I watch sometimes as background noise for a rote work task which actual rewatches are great for. I’m tempted to skip around the better pockets of GL or more memorable stories for the rest of the 90s/2000s.

I’m somewhat contemplating picking out a period of ATWT which was consistently my favorite soap when I was young-though 80s Y&R was my real intro to soaps. I remember getting excited every summer for the Danny Romalatti concert haha

For whatever reason outside of Carly/Jack on ATWT I barely remember anything where a lot of GL stuck with me more for whatever reason. I think the characters just resonated emotionally with me more.

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