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12 minutes ago, DeeVee said:

They would have had to retcon that because I can't think of one female character on GL who fits that description.

A teen widow? Wasn't he a Vietnam vet? Sounds like she could have been one of his comrade's wives, though that once again would make Lucy a lot older than AM.

Honestly, making Brandon Amanda's father makes more sense than that. I can believe that creep raped a teenaged girl. But Sarah having an affair and giving the kid away? NOPE.

Harley should be roughly A-M’s age but that doesn’t really make sense with Buzz disappearing after he’s drafted if we’re talking A-M’s onscreen birthdate. The A-M SORAS really messes with any timeline of anyone on the canvas. A-M would be born around 1970 to match his 18 years old in 1987. Lucy was 20 in 1993 so if they tried to have their adult ages match up Buzz would’ve been with Lucy’s mom roughly 1976 if my (very rough) math is right.

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35 minutes ago, Khan said:

Or her giving up the child for adoption. Sarah Shayne wouldn't have done that either.

Other than Harley, none of the stories behind the retcon children given up for adoption (Van, Reva, Sarah just off the top of my head and even Jackie with Phillip) make a lick of sense really.

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18 minutes ago, DeeVee said:

They would have had to retcon that because I can't think of one female character on GL who fits that description.

A teen widow? Wasn't he a Vietnam vet? Sounds like she could have been one of his comrade's wives, though that once again would make Lucy a lot older than AM.

Yes, her husband was a war buddy of Buzz's and Buzz met her when he went to report to her about her husband's death. I might be confusing the details, but I think Buzz may have been accidentally responsible for his death and the army covered it up by giving him a medal.

Lucy was born in 1973, as she has her 21st birthday onscreen in 1994.

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6 minutes ago, P.J. said:

Other than Harley, none of the stories behind the retcon children given up for adoption (Van, Reva, Sarah just off the top of my head and even Jackie with Phillip) make a lick of sense really.

Harley is also the only one who made a good choice in adoption agency as far as the adoptive parent situation goes. Dylan/Dinah both had terrible childhoods.

Alex not remembering she had twins and Nick subsequently being sold by her ex might win on crazy retcons.

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9 minutes ago, GL95 said:

Harley should be roughly A-M’s age but that doesn’t really make sense with Buzz disappearing after he’s drafted if we’re talking A-M’s onscreen birthdate. The A-M SORAS really messes with any timeline of anyone on the canvas. A-M would be born around 1970 to match his 18 years old in 1987. Lucy was 20 in 1993 so if they tried to have their adult ages match up Buzz would’ve been with Lucy’s mom roughly 1976 if my (very rough) math is righ

Never try and do soap opera math. It's worse than calculus. I realized that when I realized that for Dinah and Harley to be the same age, and Dylan older, Reva had to be pregnant before Vanessa. Yet both were supposed to be seventeen when they got pregnant.

6 minutes ago, GL95 said:

Harley is also the only one who made a good choice in adoption agency as far as the adoptive parent situation goes. Dylan/Dinah both had terrible childhoods.

Well, Dinah's first pair of adoptive parents died. But yeah, soap adoptees don't generally have a lot of luck in that department.

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2 minutes ago, P.J. said:

Never try and do soap opera math. It's worse than calculus. I realized that when I realized that for Dinah and Harley to be the same age, and Dylan older, Reva had to be pregnant before Vanessa. Yet both were supposed to be seventeen when they got pregnant.

Well, Dinah's first pair of adoptive parents died. But yeah, soap adoptees don't generally have a lot of luck in that department.

Dylan’s supposed to older than Harley? It’s sort of crazy that Dylan is with high schoolers up through 1993 roughly.

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18 minutes ago, GL95 said:

A-M would be born around 1970 to match his 18 years old in 1987.

Yes, you're right. Basically, they made AM closer to Phillip's actual age when they SORASed him. When AM was born onscreen, Phillip would have been around 12 or 13, I think. Then there's the dicking around they did with Amanda's age when she was reintroduced. She was in her early 20s when she was introducedaround 1978. She should have been mid to late 30s when she came back and they made her in her 20s.

Yeah, there's no figuring this out by dates, LOL.

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1 minute ago, DeeVee said:

Yes, you're right. Basically, they made AM closer to Phillip's actual age when they SORASed him. When AM was born onscreen, Phillip would have been around 12 or 13, I think. Then there's the dicking around they did with Amanda's age when she was reintroduced. She was in her early 20s when she was introducedaround 1978. She should have been mid to late 30s when she came back and they made her in her 20s.

Yeah, there's no figuring this out by dates, LOL.

What’s funny is I had no idea until I came on this board that Amanda wasn’t supposed to be in her 30s when she was reintroduced given the backstory with Ross. I just assumed she was supposed to be older than Blake. Similar to Sherry Stringfield’s Blake Toby Poser’s Amanda played older to me. (Side note I was stunned to find out Rick Hearst is a year older than SS.)

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29 minutes ago, Kane said:

Yes, her husband was a war buddy of Buzz's and Buzz met her when he went to report to her about her husband's death. I might be confusing the details, but I think Buzz may have been accidentally responsible for his death and the army covered it up by giving him a medal.

Lucy was born in 1973, as she has her 21st birthday onscreen in 1994.

If you match that up with A-M being 18 in 1987 then A-M is only three years older than Lucy which makes no sense to the story. Soap math does make the head hurt. (It’s also objectively a hilarious thing to get fixated on when it comes to suspension of disbelief on soaps.)

So, bottom line Lucy’s mom could be anyone as far as the timeline goes since the internal timeline makes no sense.

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11 minutes ago, GL95 said:

Dylan’s supposed to older than Harley? It’s sort of crazy that Dylan is with high schoolers up through 1993 roughly.

I'm pretty sure he was originally supposed to be two years older than Harley. Harley's 16/17 when she's pregnant with Daisy in '87. Dinah graduated high school in '87 (so she's at least 17.) Dylan's 19 when he shows up in '89.

Even if they're all the same age, it means Nadine, Vanessa, Reva and Hope all gave birth the same year. (which is a head scratcher, when you throw in that Jackie gave birth to Samantha onscreen the same month as Hope, but Sam is at least a year younger than Alan-Michael. Alan-Michael got married shortly after Samantha arrived in '89, to access his trust. Yet in '90, Samantha can't marry in the state without a guardian's permission.)

They did acknowledge that Julie was younger than Dylan. She was about 18, while Dylan should've been 23.)

Like I said--soap math is migraine inducing.

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16 minutes ago, GL95 said:

What’s funny is I had no idea until I came on this board that Amanda wasn’t supposed to be in her 30s when she was reintroduced given the backstory with Ross. I just assumed she was supposed to be older than Blake. Similar to Sherry Stringfield’s Blake Toby Poser’s Amanda played older to me. (Side note I was stunned to find out Rick Hearst is a year older than SS.)

Amanda should've been a lot closer to Vanessa's age. Vanessa and Amanda were scrappin' at Spaulding before Alan Michael and Bill were born.

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21 minutes ago, P.J. said:

Amanda should've been a lot closer to Vanessa's age. Vanessa and Amanda were scrappin' at Spaulding before Alan Michael and Bill were born.

Didn't they make Amanda and Dinah mean girl buddies when Poser came on the show? I seem to remember them making fun of people together.

Yes Amanda was in the same age range as Vanessa. She and Hope were close friends. They implied she was close to AM as an older sister when he was growing up. Then she comes back and she's around his age.

Another roadblock to bringing back Hope, who would have had to have beeen way older than her.

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9 minutes ago, DeeVee said:

Didn't they make Amanda and Dinah mean girl buddies when Poser came on the show? I seem to remember them making fun of people together.

Yes Amanda was in the same age range as Vanessa. She and Hope were close friends. They implied she was close to AM as an older sister when he was growing up. Then she comes back and she's around his age.

Another roadblock to bringing back Hope, who would have had to be be way older than her.

I'm not sure about Amanda/Dinah. As they both hated Blake, it's a definite possibility.

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16 minutes ago, DeeVee said:

Didn't they make Amanda and Dinah mean girl buddies when Poser came on the show? I seem to remember them making fun of people together.

Yes Amanda was in the same age range as Vanessa. She and Hope were close friends. They implied she was close to AM as an older sister when he was growing up. Then she comes back and she's around his age.

Another roadblock to bringing back Hope, who would have had to have beeen way older than her.

They both were out alone and got drunk together the night Blake locked Amanda in the construction site trailer but snuck out then returned only to give herself hypothermia.

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10 hours ago, P.J. said:

Other than Harley, none of the stories behind the retcon children given up for adoption (Van, Reva, Sarah just off the top of my head and even Jackie with Phillip) make a lick of sense really.

I think I've said this before, but as impactful as that storyline was on GL, it also feels too convoluted, for lack of a better word, and probably explains why Douglas Marland simply never addressed it during his time with the show. (Remember, he felt the same way about Peter and Diana Taylor conveniently being adoptive parents to Jeff and Heather Webber's baby on GH).

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