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I can understand people like MG etc who voiced their opinion at work, and didnt make a lot of waves publicly as that is their job on the line (especially for the vet actors, older, working in a dying industry) and we see how vindictive they were. I can even understand Kimmer not coming out in the press and knocking Raunch and the MADD cow...but a line or two about supporting Michael and what is happening is terrible, etc. She had more power then anyone on the show (stupidly they thought she was their cash cow) and she didn't hesitate to go behind the scenes and whisper into the soap press ears things about behind the scenes actions  to keep her in their good graces...(most notorious is talking about Marj being fired and how she was so upset and worried as "how was she going to get a job at that age" )but nothing about Zaz?

 

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It should be said that Michael Zaslow and his family launched a charity called "Zas Angels" and MANY Guiding Light stars went to those events to support Zaslow. I can't remember off-hand who, but one I do remember is Justin Deas brought his wife (Margaret Colin) and his two sons to one fundraising event.

and for those who are blasting Kim Zimmer, she headlined a Michael Zaslow event and asked her former "Doctors" co-star Alec Baldwin (who then a big star) to co-host the event with her (video below) - many of the Guiding Light stars were upset over how Zaslow was treated, and did everything the could to support his charity 

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Exactly. I don't know why Zimmer is the one getting smoke for the entire cast (especially given the above). I found plenty of her antics annoying BITD but I am never going to fault her for a) standing by her contract against Wheeler or b) doing what she could for Zaslow.

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It's like whenever an entertainer passes away and all of social media is like, "Why hasn't his/her co-star from that movie they did back in '64 made any statements?"  Entertainers are not obligated to do anything except entertain us.  Period.

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Zimmer spoke out about every injustice she saw on GL. The woman never met a grievance she didn't like. Even in her book, she casts herself as someone who always spoke out against injustices and when something was wrong on the show. IS she obligated to speak out against the Zaslow situation? No. Did she do charity work and support his family after his death? Yes and I think what she did was wonderful. (I can't stand Baldwin but good for him for hosting.) I just think it's telling she said nothing publicly  while he was alive and while they were vicious about him in the press while he was going through his battle with ALS. In her book, she had no problems calling other people out for not standing up for what's right. 

 

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I think all of this made sense with Josh's obsessive nature, which most writers who weren't Pam Long never seemed to tap into.

Beth Ehlers and Robert Newman had good chemistry, which helped (other than Kim he wouldn't really have chemistry with another woman until Crystal Chappell).

I never saw Harley that way, although she wasn't in the dynamic long before Newman left. I wonder how Curlee felt about Mallet/Harley. To me THAT was the pairing which changed Harley, draining her of all life and saddling her with a dull, sanctimonious [!@#$%^&*]. For the most part Harley never regained what had made her special (not helped by the Philip pairing, someone else who tended to drain life out of his partners).

I couldn't remember if they still mentioned Susan and Nick at the end. Thanks. 

Usually, any gay man on a soap with AIDS was a short-term character and we often just saw them through the eyes of our heroine. GL had a friend in Lucy's support group (I can't remember his name, but I liked him). GH had Jon Hanley, Lucy Coe's dresser. We never saw any of their suffering (Lucy did have a moving reaction after Hanley passed away in real life). The closest was AMC, which in early 1995, when Julia Santos was becoming a nurse, had some very hard scenes to watch where Julia helped a young man who was dying of AIDS, and they were more honest in showing him in agony and in tears, saying he did not want to die, etc. 

Thank you to everyone who answered my questions about the blizzard and Fiona, and Mary Ellen Stuart.

Sadly it was taken down.

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Michelle Forbes and Cynthia Watros would like a word. I really dislike CC, so I can't comment on that.

I guess I never saw Josh as obsessive. Or maybe I'm too busy seeing him being a self-righteous jerk. It's interesting, I just caught a couple of eppys of him and Morgan, where he goes off on this rant about her behavior, and I swear, it was like watching him yell at Reva.

I guess for those couple of months maybe Harley was coming off like Reva Jr, but otherwise, nope. And I never thought the male population of Springfield adored her the way they did Reva.

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I haven't watched Sonni/Josh that closely but anything I have seen is Sonni pining and being paranoid and being manipulated while Josh worries over Reva.

I didn't really see a lot between Cynthia and Robert, although they barely had a chance before Kim returned.

I do think Josh was a self-righteous ass, but many regimes tried to paint him as having to put up with Reva and her antics. Long was the one I think could admit in the writing that they were as bad as each other. 

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I agree that he was toned down...and admittedly there were periods later on where we could see him turning away a good thing because of Revamania and the damage this caused (everything with Annie in 96/97). I do think the Sonni story was a good window into Josh's obsessive, unpleasant nature as he only married her to get away from Reva, and then everything he did became about Reva when he returned to Springfield. It wasn't hard to see why Sonni went around the bend. 

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