Members ian Posted September 5, 2009 Members Share Posted September 5, 2009 l m f a o... Colleen as the one with cancer. It'd play out like this: Olivia: Colleen, you have cancer. Colleen: Crikey! I caint have da cancah Olivia: You do. Later: Cane: Hello Colleen Colleen: G'day Coine. Did you hear about the cancah? Cane: Yes. Colleen: It's worse than a dingo eating my baby. Later: Colleen: Well my gawd it looks like it's time for me to die. I'll soon be with my pet koala and wallabe. Patty: and Kitty. (Pulls trigger). Bursts of applause. There's TS's freakin Emmy nomination. MAB sounded kinda robotic... sort of like a text-to-speech program, with Hogan Sheffer writing in what to say and then making her say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted September 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 5, 2009 Yup. And he's an Emmy machine. He's got the chops--he just needs to be written for. When they're ready to break up this couple (not that I want that) they'll both get oodles of material...esp if the divorce is messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted September 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted September 5, 2009 Oh goodness. There's nothing she can do right for folks these days, eh? That said, I found (with all the "you knows" and other speech fillers) that she sounded (to me) [ a ] distracted, [ b ] surprisingly midwestern (I knew she was from Chicago, but I wasn't expecting that) and [ c ] strangely passionless. I mean, cancer has touched her life personally. You'd think she'd be awash in emotions as she brings that to the screen. Instead, she was strangely cool. I wonder if this means she maintains an incredible level of detachment from her material. If that is true, it would possibly explain why she doesn't "feel" the dissatisfaction of fans (per her interview with NB), and if if explains some of the lack of emotion in her storytelling these days. What if she is just a "thinker", and not a "feeler". That would explain a lot, and would be consistent with her self-presentation on that video. LML, for all the criticism, was definitely both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members y&r_fan Posted September 7, 2009 Members Share Posted September 7, 2009 "Far and Away"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scryber96 Posted September 7, 2009 Members Share Posted September 7, 2009 Nope. MAB could say, "The sky is a beautiful blue today" and someone, and we all know who, will post, "But it's not the shade I wanted it to be! Bill Bell would have gotten it right! She needs to be fired!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B Posted September 7, 2009 Members Share Posted September 7, 2009 The show has budget problems and they need to make tough cuts. LeBlanc would be one of those cuts for me. He's a secondary character (never a true lead IMO) with unnecessary ties to the canvas. I'd also can Greg Rikaart, Emily O'Brien and Judith Chapman. These characters need a rest. The writers have burned through so much story for them and no longer seem inspired to write anything even remotely interesting for them. So I say write them off, save a lot of money and use the budget to boost the existing families. There have been Emmy winners who've left Y&R before. Hell, LeBlanc has left before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bellcurve Posted September 7, 2009 Members Share Posted September 7, 2009 In fairness, that would be something right up Maria's alley, since she studied art history and worked in fashion for years! But yeah, she would somehow find a way to f*ck that up too and say, "Well Bill would be SO PROUD!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted September 7, 2009 Members Share Posted September 7, 2009 Whatever, dayplayer poster. My gripes and the gripes with others concerning Maria Arena Bell is the crappily executed, badly paced, cliched storytelling, stupidly written, and overall uncreative show she writes. If she doesn't want to be scorned by message board posters, then she shouldn't go around pimping her big ego in interviews and talking about how her show is mistake free and how all the unevenness we've seen is "by design." Everyone's, including my gripes with Bell and her writing has been explained in detail (but I guess, you've skipped over my detailed posts about her writing). If you have issues with a poster, then take it up with them, instead of pulling lame crap like "we all know who" and generalizing things about them that you either don't know about or you choose to focus on only certain things about what they've posted on this message board, despite them explaining in detail often what their position is and why they're saying what they're saying. And yeah, I do say she should be fired a lot, but it usually ties into huge errors I see in her amateur writing. If it's too bad that I and others want better for a show that was for many years the most consistently written show in daytime, until your girl Latham showed up and tried to change the identity of the show and failed miserably (hence why she's gone!)and now Maria and her henchmen are continuing to do it in their own way, then so be it. We'll be the "we all know who's" of this and other message boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted September 7, 2009 Members Share Posted September 7, 2009 The existing families are hollow even with extra members. The Chancellors barely interact and when they do they repeat the same old conversations. The show is anti-family. If I were going to make cuts it would be: the girl who plays Eden Clementine Ford Billy Miller (this character needs a rest of at least 6 months if not a year) Adrienne Frantz Sean Kanan Ted Shackleford Judith Chapman Amelia Heinle Michelle Stafford (if they cannot find something new for Phyllis she needs to go) Stacey Heiduk (MJ/Patty is destroyed beyond repair) Kristoff St. John (he's on the way out anyway) Bryton James Michael Muhney (awful recast) Eileen Davidson (she is the generic damsel in distress and Ashley is much too old to work in this role) the girl who plays Abby (send Abby off to boarding school) I would actually go even further and dump Eric Braeden, but I know that will never happen. I didn't list Daniel Goddard because I think he's probably one of the lesser problems on the show now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lmfan Posted September 7, 2009 Members Share Posted September 7, 2009 Sure they could do this but it would be idiotic. You don't dump a three time emmy winner (CLB) and a longtime vet (TEB) just to prop lesser talent. I can't say I would be shocked if they did this, but these writers are adding family for Kevin so he is staying. Do many really think it would be a smarter move to write off CLB and TEB as Michael and Lauren just so they can center the family around Kevin and Jana with Ryder. Not to mention the bad press they would get. CLB might not be a favorite of MAB or HS but he is popular with his cast and the industry as a whole. Dumping him on the heels of winning another emmy while hiring and centering on lesser talent would be a bad PR move. As for the writers burning through so much story for Michael I just don't agree with that. The show is writing Gloria and Jeffrey into the corner with their Natasha and Boris routine, but there is so much story to play with Michael and Lauren. And it's about time to write for them because they have not been frontburner for a long time. They need to give the quad a rest, and move on from this glaslighting story this fall and give Michael and Lauren a story. Or how about having Kevin supporting a Michael story for once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members y&r_fan Posted September 8, 2009 Members Share Posted September 8, 2009 No offense to Alvin but that's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted September 8, 2009 Members Share Posted September 8, 2009 No offense taken y&r_fan, it's just lame when posters who obviously don't read the posts of the people they're mocking generalize those people as if they don't explain their position for saying the things they say. It's also quite transparent when they can't even confront the posters directly that they're mocking. Also, when those same posters rarely post or contribute anything to the discussions on this board and start mocking other posters in threads where that isn't even relevant or needed, it's very eye roll worthy. Not like this is the first time Scryber96 has done this and directed towards me. If you're going to mock someone, make sure you have your facts straight, MAB isn't picked on because it's the "in" thing to do, she's picked on because of her writing abilities (or lack of) that don't please many. And since we're the viewers who watch this show, we have every right to post about our dissatisfaction (or satisfaction) with the show and demand better writing and better writers, even if it is done often. But oh wait, I assumed "we all know" that. Anyway, back on topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted September 8, 2009 Members Share Posted September 8, 2009 It's really pathetic, even though I'm not the biggest Michael fan, but soaps are supposed to be rotating ensembles, where everyone gets something significant to do in a calendar year. Y&R used to be very good at this, and Latham for all the havoc she reeked, she wrote more of an ensemble show than what we're currently getting from Maria Arena Bell, Hogan Sheffer, and Scott Hamner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Heyou Posted September 9, 2009 Members Share Posted September 9, 2009 Exactly! Why do some have to read into things that just aren't there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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