Members alphanguy74 Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 Well, it may be offensive... but it's been done before, and it does happen in real life. My best friend had a regular sexual relationship with his brother in law. I say she's taking a story in Y&R's past, and trying to give it a twist, or something to make it a "little" different. This Tyra/Devon thing is her "Update" of the Lorie/Mark Henderson SL, I'm tellin you... this is what she's doing!!! She's taking SL's from 20-30 years ago, and putting a slightly new slant on them, and calling it channeling Bill Bell. The only problem is his stories only worked when the pacing was right... and right now, the pacing is sh!t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 I know people have sexual relationships with their in-laws, or sometimes even their own relatives, but people do all types of things in real life that never make the show. In-law sex is something soaps have all the time, but it's rare to have two people who grew up as blood relatives, felt no sexual attraction to each other, and then as soon as they find out they aren't related, they want to hump. Lorie and Mark had no idea they were related when they fell in love. That's one of the reasons why it was probably believable they would still want each other even when they knew it was wrong. I know what you mean. Bill Bell did some of these types of stories. I just don't think he would have done one like this. This is all Bradley Bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alphanguy74 Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 I know, and you are right. Bill Bell did do these types of stories, so this is why Maria is taking his stuff, turning it around backwards, and thinking it's gonna work. And it just won't. If your'e gonna copy you father in law, Maria.. just COPY HIM EXACTLY. I'd be ok with that. Do the exact same thing Bill did 20-30 years ago, only with different people. At least we know that way, it would be good, and paced right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bellcurve Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 She can't. She's too busy watching LMN, coming up with crappy Restless Style ideas, and shopping at The Grove. She'll tell some staffer to look through the history book instead of doing her own research and understanding why Bill Bell's Y&R worked on more than just a superficial level. Again, where is the blame for Writer/Producer SHOWRUNNER Maria? She takes full credit for this mess, as she should. She doesn't want too many cooks in the kitchen, well then tell them to find another restaurant. Even IF Maria was interested in diversity, why the hell is she allowing such degrading stories to happen to her minorities(gay, hispanic, & black)? That's not diversity, that's borderline minstrel show. I want to know how she rationalizes this too. Is this a story Bill Bell would approve of? Are any of these disgusting stories something that he would approve of? I highly doubt Maria took this from Y&R's past. I bet this writing staff has no clue who Lorie Brooks even IS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MichaelGL Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 If you're still tuning in, then this should be a signal to tune out. WTF? Devon f*** his aunt? No build up whatsoever. Yes we know Devon's been crushing on her, but I thought she was so caught up with Neil she wouldn't give him so much as a single thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevie Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 PLEASE, PLEASE let this be all HYPE and just him consoling her because she feels neglected by Neil...... DO NOT GO there with Devon and Tyra. PLEASE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevie Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 PLEASE, PLEASE let this be all HYPE and just him consoling her because she feels neglected by Neil...... DO NOT GO there with Devon and Tyra. PLEASE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bellcurve Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 SOAPnet.com is even reporting this as official spoiler. This is a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevie Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 Sad part is Devon (Bryton McClure has so much potential and better than this).......This is NOT good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 I'm not trying to absolve her of blame so much as I just ignore her because I think she's irrelevant. She has her "art" stories, and she does the publicity, but otherwise I have a hard time imagining she has a major role. Everything on Y&R now reeks of Rauch and Sheffer. These faux-incest stories are so stupid. Lorie/Mark, and later on Scott/Cricket, at least there was some dramatic value. People fall in love and then realize they are related. Where is the dramatic value in people who are raised as blood relatives, show not an inkling of love or lust for each other, and then, a few months after they find out they aren't blood relatives, rip each other's clothes off? Can you imagine if these people were writing the show in the 80s? John would have found out about Brent Davis and started porking Ashley on the Abbott living room couch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bellcurve Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 If this is all Sheffer/Rauch, then Maria needs to step back and quit before what little of her good name is completely ruined. "My show, my vision" will haunt that scabbing hack for her entire tenure. Please, don't give them any more ideas. John faked his death because he was too scared to admit his love for Ashley. Or Ashley could have ghost sex with John while being haunted by Sabrina. Yeah, that's contemporary soap opera storytelling right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 Whoever gets the most blame, Maria Arena Bell, Hogan Sheffer, and Scott Hamner all suck and have all reeked havoc on various shows before. In Maria's case, she's inexperienced and never really wanted to be a soap opera writer. How all three of these hacks are in charge of the story content of this show stuns me... Their vision is corrupt, damaging, and just bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stevie Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 I have to say I really upset by this. I don't understand why Devon isn't portrayed as being a good guy, bet yet hanging out with some of the younger crowd with his girlfriend Roxanne? It's not that hard is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cara mia Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 That's November sweeps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NorrthCafe Posted August 9, 2009 Members Share Posted August 9, 2009 I'm long done with the BnB, but your comments are EXACTLY what I would expect if the BnB went to an hour format. Some fans think that the show could develop storylines in greater depth... I don't see that happening. If you can't tell a well thought out set of storylines in 1/2 hour, an hour could only be twice as painful. Lesli Kay, Winsor Harmon, and others would still lack airtime (sadly). They would become the Neil Winters, of the BnB. Devon hot for Tyra? Pathetic. The only thing to make matters worse is having them find out they really ARE related. I've been waiting for one of the Bell soaps to pull this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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