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Y&R: Episodes discussion., Week of June 29,2009

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Plus this is a six month deal.

In my mind, this is about reversing a LML retcon, giving Bierdz some cash to continue with his artist ways (and then he can recur back in the future, kind of like Beau Kayzer). Bierdz, I think, is a temporary plot point...the main goal is to give Cane something to struggle with...to win back Lily's love...to win back the town's affections...to begin a romance with Mac (setting up, anew, the Billy-Mac-Cane-Chloe quad).

Damn, that all sounds as bad as what's going on now. No offense, Mark.

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OMG! Pure comedy!

Look at the last 20 seconds of this clip. While EVERYONE, Khalil and Goddard included surprisingly, were good, in comes Bierdz, who looks like he's high, and the way he recites this one line is absolutely hilarious, for all the wrong reasons!

OT: What is that new [ media ] code you used for youtube? Is this new?

I don't see what you saw. I saw RESOLVE.

He sort of stood there with strength and acknowledge that he was the mastermind.

Remember the backstory. P3 is coming back, obviously acknowledging that engineered this, and explaining why (as a scared young man) he went to these lengths. He's not a scared man anymore.

He's laying out the facts in a no-bullsh!t way.

It has taken him over 20 years to marshall the strength for this. Thus, his initial emotional response is not over-wrought. It's finally saying out loud what he was afraid to say for so long.

Damn, that all sounds as bad as what's going on now. No offense, Mark.

No offense. I really thing that is what this is about. It is not my imagination :). It is my speculation about where we are headed.

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OT: What is that new [ media ] code you used for youtube? Is this new?

It's new, you just insert the youtube link, not the embedded code into the media tag.

I don't see what you saw. I saw RESOLVE.

He sort of stood there with strength and acknowledge that he was the mastermind.

Remember the backstory. P3 is coming back, obviously acknowledging that engineered this, and explaining why (as a scared young man) he went to these lengths. He's not a scared man anymore.

He's laying out the facts in a no-bullsh!t way.

It has taken him over 20 years to marshall the strength for this. Thus, his initial emotional response is not over-wrought. It's finally saying out loud what he was afraid to say for so long.

Come on, Mark. LOL!

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I also loved the Kay/Jill scenes and thought even when they were background players to stuff going on in the foreground, they never dropped out of character, and their silent looks spoke volumes.

Good stuff...

OT: What is that new [ media ] code you used for youtube? Is this new?

I don't see what you saw. I saw RESOLVE.

He sort of stood there with strength and acknowledge that he was the mastermind.

Remember the backstory. P3 is coming back, obviously acknowledging that engineered this, and explaining why (as a scared young man) he went to these lengths. He's not a scared man anymore.

He's laying out the facts in a no-bullsh!t way.

It has taken him over 20 years to marshall the strength for this. Thus, his initial emotional response is not over-wrought. It's finally saying out loud what he was afraid to say for so long.

That's what I saw too. But hey - it's subjective.

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Cane & Lily marriage is illegal. That's all I'm going to say.

Lemme guess. You think she has a CHANCE at a new romance, eh?

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You saw all of that from little line and they way Bierdz delivered it? :huh:

We shall see next week when he has longer scenes, but knowing he was never that great of an actor anyway and seeing what I saw today does not make me hopeful.

Again, he's the first one to say, he didn't come back to "act", he came back to be "himself." Which leaves me to question, why the hell come back to a fictional universe then?

But whatever, none of this story makes sense, and if I can get a chuckle out of his bad acting, it will be the only thing this crappy story has given to me.

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Lemme guess. You think she has a CHANCE at a new romance, eh?

God no. Driscoll deserves so much better than Khalil.

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Cane & Lily marriage is illegal.

Beastiality usually is.

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Plus this is a six month deal.

In my mind, this is about reversing a LML retcon, giving Bierdz some cash to continue with his artist ways (and then he can recur back in the future, kind of like Beau Kayzer). Bierdz, I think, is a temporary plot point...the main goal is to give Cane something to struggle with...to win back Lily's love...to win back the town's affections...to begin a romance with Mac (setting up, anew, the Billy-Mac-Cane-Chloe quad).

I see Lily spinning out of this tale. With Tricia Cast recurring, I think Bierdz is also there to introduce a soon-to-return-character into some angst.

By November sweeps, Rafe will probably go to Australia to live with him. And what will be left behind is P3's offspring, and Cane's rehabilitation.

I don't see either Nina or P3 sticking around much past November.

There is no way Cane/Lily will end because of this. We'll see the same flip-flopping we see with the Quad. Lily's always been an idiot. And especially under this regime where a CEO of a successful international conglomerate is blindly forgiving of his son, Lily will forgive Cane. I see Katherine doing the same. However, as Jill's on this "I'm a bitter outsider" shtick, she won't be as easily accepting.

I thought P4 was going to be gay and end up with Rafe?

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There is no way Cane/Lily will end because of this. We'll see the same flip-flopping we see with the Quad. Lily's always been an idiot. And especially under this regime where a CEO of a successful international conglomerate is blindly forgiving of his son, Lily will forgive Cane. I see Katherine doing the same. However, as Jill's on this "I'm a bitter outsider" shtick, she won't be as easily accepting.

:lol:

You just nailed the crappy writing patterns on this show with these writers.

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