I'm glad they aren't focusing on his being gay, because that would distract from the real issue. That he is a coward and that he has hurt his child in a way which I think is almost impossible to forgive. I don't like that this is the reason they are giving for him to inflict such pain on his loved ones. I like even less that he decided to bring Cane in to do something "nice" for his family, since it certainly wasn't very nice for Nina or Phillip. But if they are doing this story then I would rather them not talk about any opposition to homosexuality. It would just let Phillip off the hook for what he has done.

Edited July 2, 200916 yr by CarlD2

One of MAB's own staff writers who has read & understand the Poetics could write this show. MANY MANY people could write this show as long as they follow the basic rules of drama.

You're not going to get Stephen King, Dan Brown, James Patterson, Janet Evanovich, Stephanie Meyer, Charlaine Harris or the like, but you could probably find some B-list author who does a good knock-off. [Though SK is an AMC fan so he might be willing to pen a short-term horror plot if the TPTB approached him]. One under-rated suspense gem is Scott Smith but there are so many talented writers out there who get the basics. That's all I want from MAB -- just for her to understand the basics.

And if you're going to retcon, don't retcon your own writing!

Cane is going to say know that he always knew he couldn't be the father of Chloe's baby and that Billy had to be the father, even though he gave his DNA via cheek swab and not blood. Why not just use the most realistic "cheat" and just say that Chloe paid of the lab tech? It's just a way to push plot by having Cane be even more ostracized.

It would have been IN CHARACTER for

Chloe

to lie, and it would have been prevented a retcon of something we saw with our own eyes less than a year ago. As a writer, you must respect the limits that you yourself set out. You cannnot keep rewriting your own stories after stuff has played out on screen one way. It just infuriates the audience and makes them give up, sometimes for good.

Dan Brown?! The worst prose stylist in the world ever?! You have got to be kidding me! No thanks, I'll take someone else!

Dan Brown?! The worst prose stylist in the world ever?! You have got to be kidding me! No thanks, I'll take someone else!

Um, do you know what I'm talking about here -- the BASIC RULES OF DRAMA? That has nothing to do with prose styling or the like. I am taking about the rules of drama as set down by Aristotle and the Greeks. Dan Brown may irritate you but he knows how to tell a story and how to move from point A to point B to point C, etc. until he gets to his resolution.

It will take a bit of time, but it's very worth a read. Any writer who picks a pen needs to have this absorbed into his very bones.

Aristotle's The Poetics

Dan Brown?! The worst prose stylist in the world ever?! You have got to be kidding me! No thanks, I'll take someone else!

When you guys say, "dan Brown", are you talking 'reliquaries'?

When you guys say, "dan Brown", are you talking 'reliquaries'?

Oh, so that's what LML was trying to do. I had no idea what she was thinking by bringing "Art" into the show. "Luckily" Maria has picked up right where LML left off!

Um, do you know what I'm talking about here -- the BASIC RULES OF DRAMA? That has nothing to do with prose styling or the like. I am taking about the rules of drama as set down by Aristotle and the Greeks. Dan Brown may irritate you but he knows how to tell a story and how to move from point A to point B to point C, etc. until he gets to his resolution.

It will take a bit of time, but it's very worth a read. Any writer who picks a pen needs to have this absorbed into his very bones.

Aristotle's The Poetics

Dan Brown is a sucky dramatist, too. And I know why I mentioned the style. Furthermore, I have read every possible poetics from Aristotle, Schlegel, Lessing, Brecht, Egri, Freytag, McKee, Field and more.

You're not going to get Stephen King, Dan Brown, James Patterson, Janet Evanovich, Stephanie Meyer, Charlaine Harris or the like, but you could probably find some B-list author who does a good knock-off. [Though SK is an AMC fan so he might be willing to pen a short-term horror plot if the TPTB approached him]. One under-rated suspense gem is Scott Smith but there are so many talented writers out there who get the basics. That's all I want from MAB -- just for her to understand the basics.

I hope to God they'd never approach Stephenie. Dear God in Heaven.

I’d love to see a great romance novelist head-write a soap! If such a novelist exists...

I hope to God they'd never approach Stephenie. Dear God in Heaven.

What's wrong with her? What's wrong with any of the A-list authors I mentioned? None of them are Shakespeare (TM Beth Ehlers) but they can all fashion a coherent story that moves from point A to point B, etc. I just want MAB to respect *her own rules* for the universe she has created. In Stephenie Meyer's world, there are rules about what is and what is not possible. She sticks to them. You might hate what happens but she doesn't violate her own rules. Same thing for Dan Brown. The problem with MAB is that she is constantly telling us what we saw on our screen just a few months did not happen, i.e. now Sharon & Ashley are due at the same time. MAB creates a world where Adam can hook up the house with spyware but it's also a world where VICTOR doesn't think to sweep his own house or put in his own spyware? Please. It's world where DNA tests change every other day just so we can get cousins Mac & Billy together or nephew/aunt Devon & Tyra together. It's bad stuff.

Edited July 2, 200916 yr by cara mia

What's wrong with her? What's wrong with any of the A-list authors I mentioned? None of them are Shakespeare (TM Beth Ehlers) but they can all fashion a coherent story that moves from point A to point B, etc. I just want MAB to respect *her own rules* for the universe she has created. In Stephenie Meyer's world, there are rules about what is and what is not possible. She sticks to them. You might hate what happens but she doesn't violate her own rules. Same thing for Dan Brown. The problem with MAB is that she is constantly telling us what we saw on our screen just a few months did not happen, i.e. now Sharon & Ashley are due at the same time. MAB creates a world where Adam can hook up the house with spyware but it's also a world where VICTOR doesn't think to sweep his own house or put in his own spyware? Please. It's world where DNA tests change every other day just so we can get cousins Mac & Billy together or nephew/aunt Devon & Tyra together. It's bad stuff.

God... It sucks on screen, but to see it dissected like this... It sucks even more.

What's wrong with her? What's wrong with any of the A-list authors I mentioned? None of them are Shakespeare (TM Beth Ehlers) but they can all fashion a coherent story that moves from point A to point B, etc. I just want MAB to respect *her own rules* for the universe she has created. In Stephenie Meyer's world, there are rules about what is and what is not possible. She sticks to them. You might hate what happens but she doesn't violate her own rules. Same thing for Dan Brown. The problem with MAB is that she is constantly telling us what we saw on our screen just a few months did not happen, i.e. now Sharon & Ashley are due at the same time. MAB creates a world where Adam can hook up the house with spyware but it's also a world where VICTOR doesn't think to sweep his own house or put in his own spyware? Please. It's world where DNA tests change every other day just so we can get cousins Mac & Billy together or nephew/aunt Devon & Tyra together. It's bad stuff.

This is a very good summary of the problems right now.

I was going to suggest Elizabeth Kostova... But the plot drags, the climax is anti-climatic and the portrayal of women is not very good. So no.

Maybe the writers on this show right now are taking the pills Patty Jane was talking to Kitty about...

Maybe the writers on this show right now are taking the pills Patty Jane was talking to Kitty about...

"Art" imitating life...