IMO, January 2008 was great. People were mostly talking about what happened (even though it was bad storytelling left over from LML) and the show's soul had returned in a second. Things looked promising and we had a full month of character-driven stuff.... but then came Sabrina and Gloria took over and it all fell into the toilet.

Remember early 2008.

But the storylines were UTTERLY HORRIBLE in early 2008 too. Nothing clicked, and nothing happened to progress any meaningful circumstances for months.

I do not anticipate anything BUT this kind of stuff from now on.

Then the show will remain soulless and hallow. Hell, the ratings are nothing to brag about right now either, I think many are getting fed up.

Edited June 18, 200916 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

If the show had been a little more patient I think some of their stories from that time could have paid off. I think Sabrina would have been a much better fit for this gaslighting story than Ashley, and I think they could have played up on more of the history between Adam and Sabrina and perhaps not made Adam so vile.

The big death story gave them short term gains but seems to have hurt them in the long term. Everything that was wrong with that story for me (one-dimensional writing, shock value over drama, poor pacing, darkness) has gone into most of the core of the show.

Starting June 25, Rafe, wanting to exonerate his Aunt Estella, demands to search Adam's room for evidence that it's Adam gaslighting Ashley...which is when Adam tries to distract him....

So Rafe is going to believe Adam over his aunt because Adam gets physical with him? Adam must really be amazing in bed...I hope we'll get to see some of it. Or they could at least have a frisking scene

So Rafe is going to believe Adam over his aunt because Adam gets physical with him? Adam must really be amazing in bed...I hope we'll get to see some of it. Or they could at least have a frisking scene

It must be the sweet kisses Adam is going to give Rafe.

All the Newman men have some sort of magical powers in bed. How else do you explain all of Victor's conquests. It sure wasn't his charming personality.

Will Rafe turn psycho after smooching Adam? With this writing regime, you never know...

All the Newman men have some sort of magical powers in bed. How else do you explain all of Victor's conquests. It sure wasn't his charming personality.

Money and picking insecure women helps Victor...I don't want to think about any other reasons...

Will Rafe turn psycho after smooching Adam? With this writing regime, you never know...

He's such an unimportant character, I wouldn't be surprised, but I wonder if he will end up being killed by Adam eventually, especially if they don't have him go through with killing Heather.

Or they could at least have a frisking scene

Seeing that is probably what killed MJ's cat

Which one is Adam and which is Rafe?...LMAO

Which one is Adam and which is Rafe?...LMAO

Adam is the top.

So Rafe is going to believe Adam over his aunt because Adam gets physical with him? Adam must really be amazing in bed...I hope we'll get to see some of it. Or they could at least have a frisking scene

rafe is young, horny, and in lust. lol.

Adam is the top.

Hey, ya never know...

All the Newman men have some sort of magical powers in bed. How else do you explain all of Victor's conquests. It sure wasn't his charming personality.

Oh, I don't know. Maybe it's his BILLIONS of dollars. :lol: