(like the comic relief music when Jill started working as a manicurist -- I don't feel like laughing at her pain)

But that's exactly the way they're playing Jill's current situation - for laughs. We're supposed to laugh at the fact she's gone bankrupt.

I think it's silly and a total misuse of the character. Jill and Jess Walton deserve better.

Guys, how do we ignore that many of the problems plaguing this writing regime have been there since the beginning of this regime and they're only getting worse now?

This show needs a new writing team, ASAP!

I need to copy and paste this to the ATWT thread. Now that's where they truly need it.

In Re. to Y&R Weekly threads

Same sh-t different week.

Hating on the show can be fun, but this thread makes it so damn depressing. Where's the funny snark?

But that's exactly the way they're playing Jill's current situation - for laughs. We're supposed to laugh at the fact she's gone bankrupt.

I think it's silly and a total misuse of the character. Jill and Jess Walton deserve better.

If Walton doesn't like it she can bolt. I havent heard her complain. I wish we could hear from her.

Dearest Alvie - I SO wish I could tell you knew what's going on backstage so you could understand that MAB is a freaking miracle worker and is basically plugging up holes that she has NOT made.

On a side note - I never thought I'd be defending such a proud, card-carrying Republican. Ever!

Uh, screw Dr. Doom over there. You can always tell me.

But that's exactly the way they're playing Jill's current situation - for laughs. We're supposed to laugh at the fact she's gone bankrupt.

I think it's silly and a total misuse of the character. Jill and Jess Walton deserve better.

I agree....

Jess doesn't look to enthusiastic about it either in her scenes lately when it comes to the gone bankrupt aspect. I was glad to see her spunk back somewhat during the scenes Jill had with Nina and Katherine.

But that's exactly the way they're playing Jill's current situation - for laughs. We're supposed to laugh at the fact she's gone bankrupt.

I think it's silly and a total misuse of the character. Jill and Jess Walton deserve better.

It's a jolt, because Jess Walton is playing this very straight, and then the ha ha music started.

I don't know what it is about the character of Jill that makes the women who play her so protective, but I'm glad.

Dearest Alvie - I SO wish I could tell you knew what's going on backstage so you could understand that MAB is a freaking miracle worker and is basically plugging up holes that she has NOT made.

You've GOT to lay out more meat than that. Do you mean she's cash-strapped, and can't play her whole cast, and so she's doing what she can by focusing on one section at a time?

Or do you mean Hogan was foisted on her, and she's doing what she can to compensate for his weaknesses, but there is only so much she can do until his five year contract is over?

What do you mean?

The problem for me is we never saw her stealing until this story. Then suddenly she's stealing all over the place. Then suddenly she's done. So the show saying she only does this sporadically seemed like CYA.

If they were going to do it this way then I think they should have had her stealing stuff a year ago, then she stopped, then a few more things, at random intervals. They also could have shown flashbacks of her stealing as a teenager, or a young woman.

I disagree. By saying it was episodic, and the last episode happened BEFORE SHE JOINED THE SHOW (i.e., in Madison, after the accident), that did it for me. These are few and far between, they signal when she's hitting bottom, and they are unpredictable. They are mostly guilt motivated, and they go away for long (15+-year) stretches.

Done! I accept that. I also think, because she did not have therapy, some day they will be triggered again. I accept this at face value...far more than the fact that Victor has not locked Adam in his basement dungeon.

MAB can't win. Some of you want her to write for everyone on the cast. I (and I don't think I'm alone) want her to halve the cast if possible.

I started watching AMC again. Partly because I'm a masochist. Also though because there are few things AMC does really well -- like the sweet & sexy Jake/Amanda pairing -- that I just can't get from Y&R. I wonder if there are a lot of soap watchers like me who watch bits and pieces of several shows? Right now, I watch all of Y&R but I'm usually multi-tasking, and the Mary Jane, Adam and Nina/Cane stories are the only ones that can get me to focus.

I need to copy and paste this to the ATWT thread. Now that's where they truly need it.

If Walton doesn't like it she can bolt. I havent heard her complain. I wish we could hear from her.

Hasn't Jess been known as someone who doesn't complain? That was one of the reasons the contract dispute got such attention.

It's a jolt, because Jess Walton is playing this very straight, and then the ha ha music started.

I don't know what it is about the character of Jill that makes the women who play her so protective, but I'm glad.

Not only that, but they've grouped Jill in with those cartoon characters Gloria and Jeffrey and we're somehow supposed to enjoy them all as comedic relief. They obviously have no plan for these characters, they're just lumping them together.

Or do you mean Hogan was foisted on her, and she's doing what she can to compensate for his weaknesses, but there is only so much she can do until his five year contract is over?

Um, where did you get that he has a 5 year contract? No one in daytime has a contract that long anymore.

And for the sake of the show, I would hope his contract isn't that long.

Hasn't Jess been known as someone who doesn't complain? That was one of the reasons the contract dispute got such attention.

I don't know but I find it absurd to say that Jill's story is bad. Yes, we are suppose to laugh at her losing everything. I am enjoying it and Alvin huffing and puffing about everything wrong from the stories...to ..blah..blah..wont change my mind. I am so sick of hearing the same drivel!

I am so sick of hearing the same drivel!

Then it's easy, IGNORE my posts...

I don't want to see poor Jill. I want to see slutty cougar Jill.

Just like I don't want to see slutty Mac. I want born-again virgin Mac.

I like my sluts to be sluts and my prudes to be prudes. Don't confuse me! I ask for so little.

Edited June 18, 200916 yr by cara mia

Then it's easy, IGNORE my posts...

I think I will because I can't enjoy this thread. My blood is boiling. Stop watching if you hate it so much. Quit making excuses why you watch!

I think I will because I can't enjoy this thread. My blood is boiling. Stop watching if you hate it so much. Quit making excuses why you watch!

This is a discussion thread, the last time I checked. I offer a point of view that might be different from everyone else, but there's no rule against that. I will continue to offer my views on this show regardless of what anyone thinks.

MAB is a freaking miracle worker and is basically plugging up holes that she has NOT made.

MAB is wasting time and resources plugging up holes that didn't need plugging (e.g., it sucks that the previous regime rewrote history by making Cane the real Phillip III, but what was re-written was written. Move the hell on). Plus, MAB is not only making new holes, she's also making new holes in the process of plugging up old ones (e.g., bringing Phillip III back from the dead).

MAB is an overrated shrew. I'm glad that more people are becoming disillusioned with her and her fellow hacks.