Members R Sinclair Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 I'm glad you think so. Now go drink another glass of tedium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R Sinclair Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 And that's the conversation I was trying to have concerning the quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 I was trying to have this conversation with some of you guys upthread a few days ago. Alden has good and bad points. Bad = B&B. Good = some of her writing of women on Y&R. Side-by-side with a fragile, vulnerable and psychotic character like Tricia or a shaky Ashley, there was Jill at her most Bitch-Queenly and Victoria at her most headstrong. There was something about her writing, though, which had me tuning out for a while. Not something I can really put my finger on. I will say that some plots did deliver with big pay-off scenes but a lot of plots were also very much of a slow burn. Like, it took a while to get to the pay-off! It could contrast quite sharply with, say, GH's Click-Boom era around the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 The quote is crap. What else can I say? Absolute, inimitable, meaningless crap. Academic debate... Shut up, Kay Alden! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 No confrontation here. A serious question. "Debate", "rationalizing"...these seem to be bad words to you. But "feeling"...the kinds of transcendent moments you described above, these seem to be good things to you. Could it be that the writers who work best for you are those who inspire grand emotion (i.e., the "opera" in soap opera)? Could it be that Alden writes more from mind than gut? "What is his perspective? What is her perspective? What is the sum of these perspectives?" That said, I cannot defend Kay Alden. I enjoyed her early HW run on Y&R, but by the time we were drowning in Dennisons I was quite willing to embrace Jack Smith. And I cannot detect ANY positive influence on B&B. The latter show has become more fundamentally bankrupt now than it was when she was not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 No, Mark, you mistranslated again. I have no problem with debate & reason. And debate & reason & emotion can go hand in hand. I have a problem with that quote of hers. Academic debate makes her see things from all sorts of perspectives? Yeah, right, it sure showed on shows she wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R Sinclair Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 Veronica Sandbridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 Actually, if you read my post to you, I asked questions. I did not offer a translation. But you have now stated, apparently, the nature of your objection to that quote. "Yeah, right, it sure showed on shows she wrote." You disbelieve her in that statement. Now I understand. Thank you for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 Lord help us... Newsflash: that was irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MarkH Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 That was one baaad irony, Sylph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 Yeah. I have to say that never in my life have I thought that a smiley can be so misplaced as it always in your recent ones. It just seems like: I'm going to put it 'cause everyone around here does or I am actually really, really p!ssed and I have to humiliate the other person so I'm going to laugh his/her post off... Translation: I don't think you're laughing. You've never used them before - except the veiled insult - and you've never ever used formatting, instead choosing Usenet *, capitals etc. But who cares, right? Never mind me and my "interpretation". But I have to say that I am startled than no one answered Sinclair's question. Not a single soul. Never mind me, there are others who could've, but didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R Sinclair Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 Oh, for the love of God, I don't even care anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 Good for you. That's what I wanted to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 And I have to add that I did expect brimike, for example, to talk about Alden and her stories specifically and not to spin and divert the discourse into something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brimike Posted May 28, 2009 Members Share Posted May 28, 2009 Why me? I don't have a clue what Alden's plans for AMC were. And how did I divert anything? I haven't even been posting in this topic. Eh. Whatever. I stopped paying attention to this thread two pages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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