Another World Discussion Thread

[Mona Kane Croft]

Paul Raven, you should have been AW's head-writer.   

But here's a hint from my idea of Marland mining history for a retcon undead baby/child:  baby clothes...  

Edited March 29 by Mona Kane Croft

[DRW50]

Ah. Alice and Steve?

That could have been a very good storyline, especially if that child ended up having a bitter feud with Jamie.

[Xanthe]

As part of the storyline where Brittany managed to seduce Catlin and get pregnant with Peter Reginald/Little C, she was hoping to find that baby Evan had survived the accident as well. She found a news story about an adopted child that she thought resembled Evan and insisted on visiting the family in another state to find out if it could be Evan. This was probably around the time that Brittany shifted from being plausibly just stubborn to being obviously definitely not above lying and scheming to get what she wanted. 

None of this would prevent another storyline in which it turned out that Evan was alive after all. In a world where this did happen I would want it to be one where Catlin had in fact raised Kevin Thatcher as well, because I am still annoyed that after Kevin was such an important feature of Catlin and Sally getting together that Catlin would have given him up after Sally died.

There are a lot of children of Bay City who vanished never to be seen again and the same with families. In order for any of them (or any of the allegedly unborn) to be brought back, the foundation would have to be in place so that some relatives were there.   

[DRW50]

Thanks. I didn't realize they had brought the story of their dead son back. I imagine if Sharon's tenure had worked out better, they would have revisited the story again. 

You're right that Catlin would have raised Kevin. What was his exit - going to LA with Liz? 

He never died, but I thought they should have brought Mikey, the child taken from Donna and Michael, back in the mid '90s. He could have easily had the stories Nick was given.

[Xanthe]

I was trying to remember whether there had been any miscarriages on AW in the 80s and 90s and this has jogged my memory -- Donna had a miscarriage which led to her wanting to foster Mikey, and then of course Frankie had a miscarriage while Cass was with Kathleen. 

If they had brought Mikey back later in life, I wonder how they would have painted the Millers. Didn't Donna try to have Eve Miller exposed as a prostitute at the custody trial? I suppose If Mikey had been raised in a stable loving home there would be less reason for him to seek out the Hudsons as an adult. 

I believe Liz did take Kevin to California, but I don't think she ever mentioned him when she came back. Alice could have mentioned Kevin when she attended the Cory 25th anniversary party. 

[DRW50]

Thanks. Very sloppy to just not ever talk about him again, although I guess they figured most viewers wouldn't remember or care. Mid 1986 AW and late 1987 AW are almost like two different worlds.

They likely would have trashed the Millers in some way, although we barely ever saw them enough to where they'd have to work hard to make them look bad. Maybe he turns out to be lying about them and was just tired of being poor and feels like he's a burden to his parents as they are still paying off the money they spent fighting for him. Donna and Michael help him and the Millers end up letting him stay (or maybe he's already 18 by that point).

[Paul Raven]

Thanks. I actually set myself the challenge of writing outlines from 86 onwards.

Taking over at the time DePriest was headwriter.

Some of my plots:

Pam and Gerald Davis return. Rachel has to deal with her father and half sister back in her life. Pam is in cahoots with a character I named Ryan. Ryan is invalid Geralds nurse/companion.

He and Pam are scheming to inherit Gerald's money- he turned his life around. But Pam grows close to Rachel and no longer wants to be apart of the scheme but is forced to marry him. She falls for Mitch and tries to extricate herself.

Zane doesn't die immediately. Instead he faces prostate cancer and he and Felicia battle together. Later Zane dies in an accident.

Dennis and Iris return. Dennis falls for Vicky much to Iris' dismay and they marry. But when Jake returns sans Marley, Vicky and Jake have a ONS and Vicky is pregnant with Jake's baby. Donna recommends an abortion and Vicky agrees but is in a car accident on the way. At the hospital the doctor tells a delighted  Dennis his wife is pregnant and she is forced to go along with the lie, especially when Jake tells her Marley is returning and they are going to rebuild their marriage.

Vivien returns with Iris and has a romance with Wallingford.

Ben McKinnon returns and gets involved with Vicky (prior to Dennis) His world is turned upside down when a baby is left on the doorstep and Ben realizes this is his son by a woman named Paulina. vicky breaks up with him as she doesn't want to be a surrogate mother to Ben's son. The McKinnons rally around and support Ben as a single father. Ben falls in love with a sweet girl named Sara but Paulina arrives to claim her child and Ben.

 Jamie is back (not as a doctor) working for Cory. He explores his past romances with Nicole and MJ. But MJ is falling for her cop partner Matt. Trouble is he's married (separated) Matt's wife Joanne pleads with MJ to step aside to give the marriage a chance -they have a son Adam. MJ does so and gets involved with Jamie, agreeing to marry him. This is after Nicole and he break up over her sordid past in NY. But Matt pleads with MJ not to go ahead with the wedding, saying he's tried his best in his marriage but it's MJ he loves. She calls off the wedding at the church, incurring Jamie and Rachel's wrath.

Joanne is bitter and begins to stalk MJ, eventually framing Matt for her death. Matt finds out she had mental health issues before he met her. Matt is cleared and ready to marry MJ. However, he had a vasectomy to stop Joanne trapping him with another child.

Joanne's mother Lorna disappears with Adam  and Matt and MJ begin a fruitless search to track them down.

Michael and Donna face a rocky road when his ex flame Joel arrives and says she will marry him( he proposed shortly before he came to Bay City) Michael has to extricate himself from Joel, who stays in Bay City. After a few failed romances, she decides to become a single mother. When Cass returns solo, she seduces him and gets pregnant. Kathleen and Cass re-unite with neither of them aware Cass is going to be a father.

 Cory Ewing and Amanda Cory are the new teen characters at some point. Sam Lucas(now widowed) returns and leaves his daughter Jenna with Ada. A Cory/Amanda/Jenna triangle ensues.

At some point Liz and Ricky return along with Mike Randolph, Russ and his daughter,

Just a few of my ideas.

 

[DRW50]

@Paul Raven Love your ideas. So many are no-brainers - Pammy and Gerald should have returned, if anyone at AW by then even remembered them. Ben should have come back. And Vicky vs Iris writes itself. I really want a Michael Randolph return too and I had a lot of ideas on that.

[Paul Raven]

Thanks @DRW50 In my story Mike fell for Sara who was on the outs with Ben over Paulina .

Ben was in a car accident arguing with Paulina and guiltily married her on her deathbed. Paulina appeared to have died and Ben fled the hospital. But they found a pulse and Paulina made a miraculous recovery and Ben found himself married. Paulina was recovering and Ben couldn't divorce her during this. Paulina used this to her advantage. Sara was distraught and Mike moved in, but realized Sara's heart belonged to Ben. So Mike began wooing Paulina to draw her away from Ben  who  deep down she knew  really loved Sara and not her.

So she began a relationship with Mike and he began to have genuine feelings for her, Paulina gave Ben a divorce but then found our Mike pursued her only for Sara's sake. She wouldn't believe Mike now genuinely cared for her. Pat returned from time to time to visit Mike, Liz etc.

Ben and Sara finally married.

Quinn got involved with Reece, Michael's business partner, but he was a bit of a player and Quinn wasn't sure she could trust him. She found herself attracted to Dennis, who as he had done with Elena, fell for an older woman. Iris was aghast about the age difference and the inter racial aspect. Eventually Quinn married Reece and Dennis turned to Vicky.

Iris had a fling with Mitch, but he was hot for Pam. That kept Rachel in the mix. Iris also tried  with Michael which put her up against Donna. Then Russ returned and Iris had to battle a now widowed Felicia for her one time fiance's attention.

 

[Contessa Donatella]

Most sounds lovely & fabulous & interesting, etc. but Iris, hmm. not sure, sorry.  LOL!!

 

[AbcNbc247]

Those are all good ideas! 

It really shows what AW could have been in its later years, if people had known or just paid more attention to the history.

[Xanthe]

I like the idea of any of these types of plots including lying/imposters/red herrings. The storyline where Paulina was looking for the baby she had given up was better because of the part where Tito passed himself off as her son before Paulina found out it was Remy. The idea that a grown Mikey or Mikey imposter would try to take advantage of Donna and Michael could have been interesting. Of course I have also taken the position that if they had wanted to do a triplet storyline with Scott it should have been a red herring before they determined who his real real parents were. 

That makes me think of the Maggie storyline where Cecile lied to Cass about teenage Maggie's parentage. In hindsight I think it was a better idea than I gave it credit for at the time, but I think with Sandy offscreen the scope was too narrow.

[Mona Kane Croft]

How about a Ricky Matthews impersonator taking advantage of Liz?  Until Pat comes to Bay City for a visit, and recognizes that this guy is not Ricky -- whom she had seen just a few months earlier while visiting Missy in California.   Now Pat must break Liz's heart by telling her the grandson she adores is an imposter.   

[Contessa Donatella]

Now, this sorta makes me think of  DAYS current Julie and Doug3. 

[Mona Kane Croft]

Funny. But I had the idea first.  LOL

And is Doug3 an imposter, or just a criminal?  I only watch DOOL during special occasions.  

 

Edited March 29 by Mona Kane Croft