2 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Understandable 😂😂

 

I just slowly... realized... just now... that this is Karl from Desperate housewives! 😂 My radar is not working as good, as when I was single! 

42 minutes ago, Xanthe said:

I'm skeptical only because there is nothing noticeably cute about the way they present it -- it just sounds factual. 

 

It did sound factual to me... since... in the end of the day... this is a soap opera... and names are... quite often eccentric.  But after you cleared it up... I know it's just an error. (or a joke from SoapNet) 😊

I need to find who wrote those text-boxes for SoapNet and congratulate him/her/them... Just when I'm about to get serious watching a scene, SoapNet randomly trolls the characters and I start laughing! I'm obsessed with it! LOL! 

MOOD of the day! 

🙊 🤣

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Maxim said:

MOOD of the day! 

🙊 🤣

 

 

Well, she did. 

24 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Well, she did. 

SoapNet agrees with you! 😜

2 hours ago, Maxim said:

MOOD of the day! 

🙊 🤣

 

 

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Episode 5860 - July 21 1987

I don't know if I'm going to be able to endure more of this period. This is not the late 1988-early 1989 Another World that I started watching and loving couple of weeks ago. This is another show. What a difference a new head writer makes! Wow! I expected not to notice much difference. Am I imagining it? Someone tell me. I'm 5 episodes in and finding so many irritating things in the writing and characterisations. Maybe it will get better. I sure hope so. I miss the Donna Swajeski episodes I was watching.

So what was going on - it was a stormy night in Bay City. Donna nearly died from a fire she stupidly caused in a pathetic scene that only Bold and the Beautiful can rival. John, of course saved her. How predictable. 

Lisa confessed to Felicia that she was raped in a highly one dimensional melodramatic scene that lacked only a clown with a violin in the background. I guess I should get used to everything being served so direct. That scene could have been written so much better. And did we really need this lame diary? To follow her around in her princess dress writing in it... dramatically?  It's infantile for her age. I guess we may say she's emotionally stunted since she was traumatized in the past, but overall it looks and feels cartoonish. But hey it was better than the masochistic Modesta I was a hooker fiasco. 

In this current 1987 regime everything is repeated to ad nauseam. There are nearly none of the subtext and dimensions that are there in late 1988. At least not right now. God... I should have listened to the people who told me to keep watching 1989. But hey... I'll still keep trying. Maybe it's just a bad batch of episodes. 5 episodes is not the end. 

Overall - 4/10. Don't hate me.

A little aside. A huge thing at this time in AW fandom was Lisa vs. Vicky. This would go on to be an even bigger *thing* later on when it became Jamie with Lisa OR Jamie with Vicky. Also at this time simply hordes of young women were strongly identifying with Anne Heche's Vicky. (I may be off on time about this. I may be jumping the gun.) This was not my age group. But, it was Melissa's & so I am very familiar with it. In the whole of our relationship the ONLY THING we disagreed about was Lisa vs. Vicky. I was Team Lisa & she was Team Vicky. Which is kinda strange since Anne Heche ended up being one of my two all-time favorite actresses. Connie Ford being the other one.

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2 hours ago, Maxim said:

Episode 5860 - July 21 1987

I don't know if I'm going to be able to endure more of this period. This is not the late 1988-early 1989 Another World that I started watching and loving couple of weeks ago. This is another show. What a difference a new head writer makes! Wow! I expected not to notice much difference. Am I imagining it? Someone tell me. I'm 5 episodes in and finding so many irritating things in the writing and characterisations. Maybe it will get better. I sure hope so. I miss the Donna Swajeski episodes I was watching.

So what was going on - it was a stormy night in Bay City. Donna nearly died from a fire she stupidly caused in a pathetic scene that only Bold and the Beautiful can rival. John, of course saved her. How predictable. 

Lisa confessed to Felicia that she was raped in a highly one dimensional melodramatic scene that lacked only a clown with a violin in the background. I guess I should get used to everything being served so direct. That scene could have been written so much better. And did we really need this lame diary? To follow her around in her princess dress writing in it... dramatically?  It's infantile for her age. I guess we may say she's emotionally stunted since she was traumatized in the past, but overall it looks and feels cartoonish. But hey it was better than the masochistic Modesta I was a hooker fiasco. 

In this current 1987 regime everything is repeated to ad nauseam. There are nearly none of the subtext and dimensions that are there in late 1988. At least not right now. God... I should have listened to the people who told me to keep watching 1989. But hey... I'll still keep trying. Maybe it's just a bad batch of episodes. 5 episodes is not the end. 

Overall - 4/10. Don't hate me.

I'm not going to lie -- I think this is a fair assessment of this time period, and if it doesn't appeal to you then you should absolutely feel free to ditch it. However I do have a very very soft spot personally for the scene where Adam takes the blame for backing out of the wedding before anyone else has any idea why. Otherwise, MJ confessing to Mary does nothing for me and frankly I don't think there was any satisfying impact or follow-up to it, everything just seemed to drop.

The Sin Stalker storyline (which many people liked; I have big reservations) had wrapped up immediately before this and Vicky IMO isn't worth it until closer to 1989 when Anna Stuart resumes the role of Donna. So unless you are heavily invested in shirtless Chad (or Scott) or very green Anne Heche, I would say don't torment yourself.

14 minutes ago, Xanthe said:

I'm not going to lie -- I think this is a fair assessment of this time period, and if it doesn't appeal to you then you should absolutely feel free to ditch it. However I do have a very very soft spot personally for the scene where Adam takes the blame for backing out of the wedding before anyone else has any idea why. Otherwise, MJ confessing to Mary does nothing for me and frankly I don't think there was any satisfying impact or follow-up to it, everything just seemed to drop.

The Sin Stalker storyline (which many people liked; I have big reservations) had wrapped up immediately before this and Vicky IMO isn't worth it until closer to 1989 when Anna Stuart resumes the role of Donna. So unless you are heavily invested in shirtless Chad (or Scott) or very green Anne Heche, I would say don't torment yourself.

Sadly, then I was not imagining it. Thank you for this. I was gaslighting myself into believing that it's just in my head-thing. October 1988 - Jan 1989 (Harding Lemay and then Donna Swajeski) is SUBLIME. I was hooked on instant... and was crying 2-3 episodes in. Quality dialogue, suspenseful scenes, beautiful production. And my hands are itching to press play and continue where I left off - into February 1989 and beyond. 

But... I will persevere with 1987 just for the sake of the experiment, till I can't bare it anymore. Maybe something will surprise me... I'm yet to see Anne Heche's first few months on the show and I'm willing to swallow the melodrama and the boring dialogue... for her.   

I will add that it was a great relief to me to have Anna Stuart back. Philece was amazing on DAYS as Renee but she simply did not do it for me as Donna. 

 

3 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I will add that it was a great relief to me to have Anna Stuart back. Philece was amazing on DAYS as Renee but she simply did not do it for me as Donna. 

 

I'm yet to see Anna in the role. But I think, I'll probably agree with you.  

To see Anna return was a huge surprise for me and a bonus.  I think that Philece was a good casting move as it was difficult to replace Anna, and the writers wanted to soften up Donna. Early Donna was by far the best and she did get some of her edge back.  I wonder did the show come to Anna to return or did Anna want to come back and they decided that it was good to do that?

12 minutes ago, ScottyBman said:

To see Anna return was a huge surprise for me and a bonus.  I think that Philece was a good casting move as it was difficult to replace Anna, and the writers wanted to soften up Donna. Early Donna was by far the best and she did get some of her edge back.  I wonder did the show come to Anna to return or did Anna want to come back and they decided that it was good to do that?

While Anna Stuart was in Hollywood, trying that out, someone from the show, called her weekly, asking are you ready to come home yet? And, offering up tidbits about the show BTS & then when Anne was cast they began talking to Anna about this young girl & telling her all kinds of day-to-day details, trying very hard to entice her to return.

I know that Anna was always coming back but I do not know if this person's machinations hurried her along, or not. 

Then, that week, of her return, with it being Felicia's birthday & that huge party she threw for herself & the House of Mirrors & Linda Dano was sporting those awful hair extensions. I won't go on. 

BTW, the reason this is known is because Anna herself has spoken of it. But, she did not name who that person was, which is fine because it doesn't matter.

 

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