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3 hours ago, Xanthe said:

Let's see -- AW had Sharlene's prostitution storyline, then Sandy's past, and then MJ's along with her ex-boyfriend/pimp. Any others? Was Josie's modeling career supposed to have devolved into prostitution before she returned and became a cop?

I'm trying to remember if Josie had some madam who came to Bay City or if that is another show entirely. 

As for fan backlash to these pimp and prostitute stories, I don't know of any. The only thing I remember is that Roscoe Orman had to leave his role as a pimp on AMC because he was on Sesame Street at the same time. 

4 hours ago, chrisml said:

I can't think of a serial killer storyline on a soap that had a long lasting effect on a show. They just seem designed to fire people and get immediate ratings that inevitably fall because there's no longterm story.

I suppose the serial killer stories on DAYS had more ramifications, especially the one in 2003 - but then everyone was brought back, so maybe not. And Loving, which doesn't really count because the show was ending. 

AW's mostly just had the long-term effect of killing interesting characters and leaving a stench of misogyny. 

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7 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

The only thing I remember is that Roscoe Orman had to leave his role as a pimp on AMC because he was on Sesame Street at the same time.

Yep.  I think he said he was concerned that little kids watching AMC with their parents would get "Tyrone" confused with "Gordon."

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6 minutes ago, Khan said:

Yep.  I think he said he was concerned that little kids watching AMC with their parents would get "Tyrone" confused with "Gordon."

This presumably is also why all the Sesame Street Muppets ran humans off their street, never to be seen again...

3 hours ago, Xanthe said:

Let's see -- AW had Sharlene's prostitution storyline, then Sandy's past, and then MJ's along with her ex-boyfriend/pimp. Any others? Was Josie's modeling career supposed to have devolved into prostitution before she returned and became a cop?

Chad Rollo's & Dawn Rollo's mother was a prostitute. She was the donor for a blood transfusion which is how Dawn got AIDS. 

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25 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Chad Rollo's & Dawn Rollo's mother was a prostitute. She was the donor for a blood transfusion which is how Dawn got AIDS. 

She was never seen onscreen. There were also a few minor characters that MJ crossed paths with either as part of the Sin Stalker storyline or as Chad's "girls" or both ... I think one was called Letty? Or Linda?

I just remembered -- Lily Mason!

1 minute ago, Xanthe said:

She was never seen onscreen. There were also a few minor characters that MJ crossed paths with either as part of the Sin Stalker storyline or as Chad's "girls" or both ... I think one was called Letty? Or Linda?

I just remembered -- Lily Mason!

It's true that she was never seen onscreen but her presence & her being a "pro" was huge! 

Lily was an escort?!

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48 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Lily was an escort?!

She was working as a prostitute when Quinn located her in order to adopt Thomasina. According to the AW synopses for 1983 she was arrested in May and Quinn bailed her out. However it looks like by October she had left prostitution. In 1984 when she started dating Grant Todd she admitted her past to him. He initially said he was OK with it but then dumped her pretty quickly.

I wish we had more of 1983 available online.

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6 hours ago, Xanthe said:

AW had Sharlene's prostitution storyline, then Sandy's past, and then MJ's along with her ex-boyfriend/pimp. Any others? Was Josie's modeling career supposed to have devolved into prostitution before she returned and became a cop?

On the other hand, a history of sex work was not always a barrier in Bay City.  Some of the most respected cops, journalists, and designers started off in the oldest profession.  Unlike Peyton Place, a gal (or guy) with a checkered past could wind up involved with some of the wealthiest families in town. 

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Lettie the hooker is in this Hallowe'en episode with a lot of heavy-handed dialogue about how much MJ "understands" about prostitution and foreshadowing Lettie's imminent murder.

At the end of the episode there is a location segment outside the Love Mansion. Also Reginald really loves Victoria.

 

More outside the Love Mansion on the day of the skeet shoot. Scott and Cheryl enjoy the autumn leaves.

 

 

Linda was a different prostitute who worked for Chad and was also murdered by the Sin Stalker after spending some time with Peter. 

 

 

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I was looking on IMDB and see that Lionel Johnston (the last Michael Randolph) has no credits since 1984. I wish someone had asked him over the years of any memories he had of the aborted gay storyline for Michael. I'm sorry nothing of that period is around to where we could see the setup.

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On 6/5/2024 at 10:01 AM, DRW50 said:

I was looking on IMDB and see that Lionel Johnston (the last Michael Randolph) has no credits since 1984. I wish someone had asked him over the years of any memories he had of the aborted gay storyline for Michael. I'm sorry nothing of that period is around to where we could see the setup.

I was watching regularly at that time, and I do not remember any identifiable set up for Michael's gay storyline.  I believe Marianne and Mike were preparing to go to college, but I don't remember if Mike ever moved into a dorm, or if a roommate was ever mentioned at all.  I'm confident a roommate was not named, even if mentioned.  In fact, I was completely unaware of Lemay's intent for the gay plot until I read Lemay's book in the early-1980s.  I'd speculate TPTB curtailed Lemay's plans very shortly after Lionel Johnston was cast, so nothing at all ever made it into the scripts.  There were lots of scenes on the campus of Bay State University during that era, and there was a Campus Coffee Shop set.  Plus three or four college students (new characters) appeared pretty regularly for a year or so.

Speaking of Lionel Johnston -- he seems to have completely disappeared.  It's interesting he has managed to keep any photos of himself post-1979 off of the internet.  That's an accomplishment since most people who are professionals of any sort have at least one or two photos online somewhere (Linked-In, Facebook, employer's website, etc). 

Another person from AW who managed to avoid having photos from later-life online was Virginia Dwyer.  It was amazing to me that Dwyer had absolutely no new photos posted online for nearly 35-years (from around 1975 until her death), even though she lived in Manhattan that entire time and had fans looking for her.  Less than 20-years ago, one over zealous fan managed to find her home address and took a photo of the outside of her apartment building.  He posted both the address and the photo online.  But there were never any photos of Miss Dwyer herself.  

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25 minutes ago, Mona Kane Croft said:

I was watching regularly at that time, and I do not remember any identifiable set up for Michael's gay storyline.  I believe Marianne and Mike were preparing to go to college, but I don't remember if Mike ever moved into a dorm, or if a roommate was ever mentioned at all.  I'm confident a roommate was not named, even if mentioned.  In fact, I was completely unaware of Lemay's intent for the gay plot until I read Lemay's book in the early-1980s.  I'd speculate TPTB curtailed Lemay's plans very shortly after Lionel Johnston was cast, so nothing at all ever made it into the scripts.  There were lots of scenes on the campus of Bay State University during that era, and there was a Campus Coffee Shop set.  Plus three or four college students (new characters) appeared pretty regularly for a year or so.

Speaking of Lionel Johnston -- he seems to have completely disappeared.  It's interesting he has managed to keep any photos of himself post-1979 off of the internet.  That's an accomplishment since most people who are professionals of any sort have at least one or two photos online somewhere (Linked-In, Facebook, employer's website, etc). 

Another person from AW who managed to avoid having photos from later-life online was Virginia Dwyer.  It was amazing to me that Dwyer had absolutely no new photos posted online for nearly 35-years (from around 1975 until her death), even though she lived in Manhattan that entire time and had fans looking for her.  Less than 20-years ago, one over zealous fan managed to find her home address and took a photo of the outside of her apartment building.  He posted both the address and the photo online.  But there were never any photos of Miss Dwyer herself.  

Thanks. I appreciate your memories. I agree that nothing likely made it to the air. 

What did you think of Michael (or Johnston)? Were you surprised more was never done with him?

I am sorry no one was ever able to interview Dwyer about AW in spite of her long life (similar to Jean McBride who outlived her work on Love of Life by many, many years), but I'm glad she was able to maintain her privacy to some degree.

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Obviously the Soapnet airing has been around but I'm not as sure if this version has been (complete with commercials).

 

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