Not necessarily. She still could be Patty, and she still could go completely psycho and get killed off in the end. IMO, the fact that she would be Paul's sister and Heather's aunt guarantees nothing.

True, it's not as if Paul and Heather were heavily involved in storylines for months, so a couple of scenes of them with Patty wouldn't mean that much.

However, if they would invest they could do good with that family.

I remember when last year we had various Williams scenes cut... in spoilers we'd get that Heather/Paul discuss or something and that would not happen. We even had April back for three episodes, but then they cut her final scene and never had her actually leave town...

Poor Doris having to know her daughter has 3 way WTD problem. I guess it's better then the women on Maury who at times have to test 15 to 20 men before they know and sometimes even after testing that many they still don't find the father........

After the Paul scene, I think they know most of the more astute viewers will guess it. And those who aren't as knowledgeable about Y&R history (newer viewers, who aren't on the internet) can still keep guessing.

Again, you could watch that scene, and still not know for certain that she's Patty.

More to the point, though, I don't think this story is being done with newer viewers in mind at all. The Mac/Billy/Chloe triangle, maybe; "Welcome Home, Patty Jane", no.

Then they might as well finally reveal Gloria is a Katherine's daughter so I can finally quit the show for good too.

Same here. If Kay-is-Jill's-mom, which was, okay, not well received, were undone just to make Gloria her true, long-lost daughter, then, to use poker parlance, I fold. I am sick to death of the constant Fisher-Baldwin propping and pimping.

More to the point, though, I don't think this story is being done with newer viewers in mind at all. The Mac/Billy/Chloe triangle, maybe; "Welcome Home, Patty Jane", no.

I think Y&R is in the strange position of always having to think about newer viewers right now. Their stuff is SO steeped in history, they have to do a lot of explaining for people who don't know the back story. There was a lot of exposition in the Kay/Marge/Clint story to get people up to speed. Sometimes it was done well, sometimes it was clunky and awkward. But they have to find a way to appease both new fans and veteran fans.

The women, from the Paul scene, would have to be someone Paul has a connection with that has reason to go after Jack.

Not necessarily a "connection", Jack. GC's a small town. People bump into each other all the time. Paul has not had a lot to do w/ Esther, let's say, but chances are good that he'd know her. Of course, we'll have to see if other people who knew (of) Patty Williams, but who didn't have much to do w/ her and Jack, run into her and have the same reaction as he did yesterday.

Not necessarily a "connection", Jack. GC's a small town. People bump into each other all the time. Paul has not had a lot to do w/ Esther, let's say, but chances are good that he'd know her. Of course, we'll have to see if other people who knew (of) Patty Williams, but who didn't have much to do w/ her and Jack, run into her and have the same reaction as he did yesterday.

however, if MJ had plastic surgery most people wouldnt recognize her, but being his sister Paul would still have some connection "do i know you" feeling that other people, aside from Mary, wouldnt have.

I guess it's better then the women on Maury who at times have to test 15 to 20 men before they know and sometimes even after testing that many they still don't find the father.

Don't be too sure of that. If Sharon was stealing things and then blanking out about it, who's to say she wasn't doing the same when she was drinkin' and sluttin' it up around town?

however, if MJ had plastic surgery most people wouldnt recognize her, but being his sister Paul would still have some connection "do i know you" feeling that other people, aside from Mary, wouldnt have.

That's exactly why most of us immediately thought it was Patty. Plastic surgery can fool people, but family might still have some sort of a connection.

Same here. If Kay-is-Jill's-mom, which was, okay, not well received, were undone just to make Gloria her true, long-lost daughter, then, to use poker parlance, I fold. I am sick to death of the constant Fisher-Baldwin propping and pimping.

Of course we'd hear some lame excuse like Michael and Kevin, two of the most unlikable criminal characters in the history of daytime, finally having a caring and nice grandmother to cushion the blow of what an awful Gloria is and has always been.

Or that Gloria being Katherine's daughter finally gives her the wealthy life she deserves.

Yeah, that family is still a cancer to this show.

Yeah, that family is still a cancer to this show.

Ooooh yes... no amount of whitewashing will help that.

Don't be too sure of that. If Sharon was stealing things and then blanking out about it, who's to say she wasn't doing the same when she was drinkin' and sluttin' it up around town?

Again, I suspect Zapato is the father of Sharon's child. Sharon went to the Newman ranch drunk one night, she blanked out, and Zapato took advantage of her.

Of course we'd hear some lame excuse like Michael and Kevin, two of the most unlikable criminal characters in the history of daytime, finally having a caring and nice grandmother to cushion the blow of what an awful Gloria is and has always been.

Or that Gloria being Katherine's daughter finally gives her the wealthy life she deserves.

Yeah, that family is still a cancer to this show.

I think they should all be going out to a family dinner.... Michael, Kevin, Jana, Eden, Gloria, Jeff... even Baby fen can be int he car. Lauren, stuck at work, says she will meet them there. She arrives at the GCAC and is shocked they are not there. She waits a bit, tries calling, and gets worried as Paul comes rushing in looking for her to tell her the news heather told him. The SUV flipped, they all died.

Again, I suspect Zapato is the father of Sharon's child. Sharon went to the Newman ranch drunk one night, she blanked out, and Zapato took advantage of her.

Or she took advantage of him. She did throw herself wherever she could.

I think they should all be going out to a family dinner.... Michael, Kevin, Jana, Eden, Gloria, Jeff... even Baby fen can be int he car. Lauren, stuck at work, says she will meet them there. She arrives at the GCAC and is shocked they are not there. She waits a bit, tries calling, and gets worried as Paul comes rushing in looking for her to tell her the news heather told him. The SUV flipped, they all died.

:lol:

I kinda like the scenario.

Ooooh yes... no amount of whitewashing will help that.

Michael Baldwin should've stayed his ass without family, and he should've stayed obsessed with Christine. I'm glad he's back to being what he's always been - a supporting charter that supports others. I have no intention in seeing his family life, or his mother's or brother's.

Michael Baldwin should've stayed his ass without family, and he should've stayed obsessed with Christine. I'm glad he's back to being what he's always been - a supporting charter that supports others. I have no intention in seeing his family life, or his mother's or brother's.

Yes, I totally agree. I'm not as bothered by them as others (meaning I can tolerate their scenes), but if they disappeared I really wouldn't care.

Now where is MarkH to defend them?