LOL...that was supposed to show the depth of her pain. I know some will disagree---but TC just massacred those scenes today. And not in a good way....I kept watching her drop out of character as Vienna explained her motivations. One minute she's all red and crying, the next moment, it's like she's listening for her cues and completely out of the scene. At least IMO.

Oh, thank God we're not in for another psychotic mama-wannabe.

TC hasn't been up to par for a long time. I'm not saying she was ever Beverlee McKinsey or anything - but there was a time you could tell she was at least really putting her heart and soul into the material. I don't think she has for at least three or four years now.

Oh, thank God we're not in for another psychotic mama-wannabe.

TC hasn't been up to par for a long time. I'm not saying she was ever Beverlee McKinsey or anything - but there was a time you could tell she was at least really putting her heart and soul into the material. I don't think she has for at least three or four years now.

I think she's bored. I agree, she's never been a day in, day out dramatic actress. You almost can't blame her---the writing is crap. I'd be more than happy to see both Brad and Katie vamoose after this revelation.

I think she's bored. I agree, she's never been a day in, day out dramatic actress. You almost can't blame her---the writing is crap. I'd be more than happy to see both Brad and Katie vamoose after this revelation.

Oh, I blame the writing. (Although I do wish she'd put a little more oomph into her performances, even if the writing does suck). I know Ruxton will crap all over me for saying this, but I loved Katie in the earlier part of the decade. I liked the comedic, slightly-ditzy, self-centered schemer. (And I was a huge Henry/Katie fan... NOT romantically, but just as partners in crime)

But I haven't enjoyed watching her in YEARS. It bums me out. I'd much rather see Katie leave, then see her reduced to this.

Oh, I blame the writing. (Although I do wish she'd put a little more oomph into her performances, even if the writing does suck). I know Ruxton will crap all over me for saying this, but I loved Katie in the earlier part of the decade. I liked the comedic, slightly-ditzy, self-centered schemer. (And I was a huge Henry/Katie fan... NOT romantically, but just as partners in crime)

But I haven't enjoyed watching her in YEARS. It bums me out. I'd much rather see Katie leave, then see her reduced to this.

I'm not sure TC/Katie ever got over the flucking Simon/hounding him like a vicious bitch storyline debacle. I know TC said at one point she wanted Katie to grow up...but I think she misses being the zany darling of the show. And now TIIC have no clue what to do with her character.

I know TC said at one point she wanted Katie to grow up...but I think she misses being the zany darling of the show. And now TIIC have no clue what to do with her character.

Exactly. And if TPTB ever attempted to bring Katie back to being the eccentric, comical schemer, guess what? It won't work. They have travelled too far in the other direction for that to work. At this rate, I'd rather see Katie go the way of Dee Stewart, Jeff and Annie Ward, Cricket Montgomery, and all those other, great ATWT characters who have left town and are likely never to be brought back.

Exactly. And if TPTB ever attempted to bring Katie back to being the eccentric, comical schemer, guess what? It won't work. They have travelled too far in the other direction for that to work. At this rate, I'd rather see Katie go the way of Dee Stewart, Jeff and Annie Ward, Cricket Montgomery, and all those other, great ATWT characters who have left town and are likely never to be brought back.

I'd love to see Katie do a Barbara, go completely insane, and be shipped off to a mental ward, far, far away.

I wanted to mention this the day it aired...Bob and Kim? Together? Alone? And having a cute conversation? And discussing Bob'a history with Lisa without it sounding forced? Awesome!!

Van in a veil

LMAO. The first thing that comes to my mind is the part in the A-Team opening where Murdock is in a wedding gown.

Ugh....the ever changing Luke Snyder Foundation shifts gears again today---it's gone from supporting gay rights to meals for the elderly and now (*drumroll*) they're going to send sick Oakdalian kids to a dude ranch in Montana. Or a cruise. Or maybe a dude cruise with seahorses they can all ride...I'm no longer sure.

Am I the only one who understands that Damian's cargo ships might not be outfitted to house sick children? But nnnoooo...in this Scooby-Doo world, Damian's terse refusal means it's time to send Shaggy and Velma to the docks to check it out for any nefarious looking thugs.

Today's other plot was a by-the-numbers mess as well. (It's been a long time since Carly wasn't the focus of an episode she was in btw...) Dusty gets the bright idea to plant evidence, only to have Carly catch him in the act. (It really is time to change those locks at Metro...Dusty hasn't owned it in probably five years) Thank goodness the OPD isn't quite that stupid...it raises Jack's Spidey senses, while Carly lamblasts Craig with her theory---Lucy has betrayed her father! Of course, I'm not allowed to enjoy any of it, since PodCraig has suddenly turned into Father of the Year material.

Ugh....the ever changing Luke Snyder Foundation shifts gears again today---it's gone from supporting gay rights to meals for the elderly and now (*drumroll*) they're going to send sick Oakdalian kids to a dude ranch in Montana. Or a cruise. Or maybe a dude cruise with seahorses they can all ride...I'm no longer sure.

I still find it appalling that there's an entire foundation named after Luke. Seriously. What did he possibly do before that foundation that would actually merit a foundation in his honor? He didn't die, he wasn't on the break of death, nobody cut him...

LOL. I was following the "live blog" from AfterElton and I wonder about the shift in what Luke's Foundation was currently doing this month. Yet, folks wonder why other viewers are utterly bored with the NUKE storyline. Why are two 20 year-olds saddled with running a "foundation" that on ANY OTHER soap opera, would be apart of an older character's storyline?!

Look at Lizzie on Guiding Light: She's currently working at her family's company, but for the past couple of weeks, it's been about her taking time off to be with Bill and focus on their renewed love for each other. It's all Bizzie, Bizzie, Bizzie and their lovely little romantic escapades in NYC and more recently, Florida.

This is how NUKE should be, but for their ENTIRE storyline, it's been ANGST, ANGST, ANGST and it's become BORING and DULL angst.

Ugh....the ever changing Luke Snyder Foundation shifts gears again today---it's gone from supporting gay rights to meals for the elderly and now (*drumroll*) they're going to send sick Oakdalian kids to a dude ranch in Montana. Or a cruise. Or maybe a dude cruise with seahorses they can all ride...I'm no longer sure.

The only "enjoyable" aspect of the Carly/Jack/Janet or Dusty/Lucy storylines for me IS PodCraig (and this comes from someone who adores Scott Bryce). Jon L. is making this latest version of PodCraig very entertaining for me.

Today's other plot was a by-the-numbers mess as well. (It's been a long time since Carly wasn't the focus of an episode she was in btw...) Dusty gets the bright idea to plant evidence, only to have Carly catch him in the act. (It really is time to change those locks at Metro...Dusty hasn't owned it in probably five years) Thank goodness the OPD isn't quite that stupid...it raises Jack's Spidey senses, while Carly lamblasts Craig with her theory---Lucy has betrayed her father! Of course, I'm not allowed to enjoy any of it, since PodCraig has suddenly turned into Father of the Year material.

Edited May 7, 200916 yr by Difficult Diva

I'm trying to control myself, but I'm LMAO right now.

I still find it appalling that there's an entire foundation named after Luke. Seriously. What did he possibly do before that foundation that would actually merit a foundation in his honor? He didn't die, he wasn't on the break of death, nobody cut him...

I just hate Craig, post-Hogan. I think Lindstrom simply fits an image. He's utterly boring in the role. I know a lot of posters who've drunk the blue kool-aid on him....honestly, I don't understand why. He's nearly as devoid of warmth as Block was.

I don't like the Thug-ifying of Oakdale. Paul, Dusty and Craig are practically the same morally challenged Dark Prince character. And I hate that Oakdale revolves around them.

LOL. I was following the "live blog" from AfterElton and I wonder about the shift in what Luke's Foundation was currently doing this month. Yet, folks wonder why other viewers are utterly bored with the NUKE storyline. Why are two 20 year-olds saddled with running a "foundation" that on ANY OTHER soap opera, would be apart of an older character's storyline?!

Look at Lizzie on Guiding Light: She's currently working at her family's company, but for the past couple of weeks, it's been about her taking time off to be with Bill and focus on their renewed love for each other. It's all Bizzie, Bizzie, Bizzie and their lovely little romantic escapades in NYC and more recently, Florida.

This is how NUKE should be, but for their ENTIRE storyline, it's been ANGST, ANGST, ANGST and it's become BORING and DULL angst.

But it's not Nuke's fault! It's the writers' fault for writing them that way! We haven't been happy with the writing much at all either!! Luke and Noah have suffered because of the writing! I mean...before the writing started to suck, there were great things like......uhhh.......uhhhhh....before the writing started to suck......there were great stories like....there was that one great story where.....uhh....uh......uh...........

I have yet to see any spice between Luke and Noah at all. Every time they have a somewhat racy moment, it's immediately dipped in gold, put on YouTube, and hailed as a tender milestone that shows the substantial progress that we've made over the last twenty-five years, dating back to Steven Carrington, who married women and a childzzzzblahblahzzzblahblahblahzzzzzzzzz.

Seriously. [!@#$%^&*] waiting around and doing things slow. ATWT would have balls to me if they jumped head first into this [!@#$%^&*]. If Zac seduced Noah enough that they had dirty, filthy sex all over Luke's bed, THAT would have been spicy! They're young adults (reaaaallly young adults, only 20 years old, maybe even 19 still), yet they're being written like they're 40. If you removed the gay elements of their stories, replaced with "Luke" with "Kim" and "Noah" with "Bob," it would make sense.

Edited May 7, 200916 yr by All My Shadows

But it's not Nuke's fault! It's the writers' fault for writing them that way! We haven't been happy with the writing much at all either!! Luke and Noah have suffered because of the writing! I mean...before the writing started to suck, there were great things like......uhhh.......uhhhhh....before the writing started to suck......there were great stories like....there was that one great story where.....uhh....uh......uh...........

I have yet to see any spice between Luke and Noah at all. Every time they have a somewhat racy moment, it's immediately dipped in gold, put on YouTube, and hailed as a tender milestone that shows the substantial progress that we've made over the last twenty-five years, dating back to Steven Carrington, who married women and a childzzzzblahblahzzzblahblahblahzzzzzzzzz.

Seriously. [!@#$%^&*] waiting around and doing things slow. ATWT would have balls to me if they jumped head first into this [!@#$%^&*]. If Zac seduced Noah enough that they had dirty, filthy sex all over Luke's bed, THAT would have been spicy! They're young adults (reaaaallly young adults, only 20 years old, maybe even 19 still), yet they're being written like they're 40. If you removed the gay elements of their stories, replaced with "Luke" with "Kim" and "Noah" with "Bob," it would make sense.

Marry me, AMS.

:lol:

Applauds and kudos to you for the below. So true.

But it's not Nuke's fault! It's the writers' fault for writing them that way! We haven't been happy with the writing much at all either!! Luke and Noah have suffered because of the writing! I mean...before the writing started to suck, there were great things like......uhhh.......uhhhhh....before the writing started to suck......there were great stories like....there was that one great story where.....uhh....uh......uh...........

I have yet to see any spice between Luke and Noah at all. Every time they have a somewhat racy moment, it's immediately dipped in gold, put on YouTube, and hailed as a tender milestone that shows the substantial progress that we've made over the last twenty-five years, dating back to Steven Carrington, who married women and a childzzzzblahblahzzzblahblahblahzzzzzzzzz.

Seriously. [!@#$%^&*] waiting around and doing things slow. ATWT would have balls to me if they jumped head first into this [!@#$%^&*]. If Zac seduced Noah enough that they had dirty, filthy sex all over Luke's bed, THAT would have been spicy! They're young adults (reaaaallly young adults, only 20 years old, maybe even 19 still), yet they're being written like they're 40. If you removed the gay elements of their stories, replaced with "Luke" with "Kim" and "Noah" with "Bob," it would make sense.