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You all were very helpful to me, recently, when you helped me find ratings for different daypart genres. That led to my latest blog post, and also helps me contextualize daytime ratings.

Now, I have another (provoked by a user who wants a correlation between daytime and primetime ratings since the 1950s).

Below is a list of soaps. At top, I have put those for which I think I know the network. Could you please look at this and verify? Also, for a few network hoppers (EON, SFT) can you confirm the start/stop years on each network?

For the soaps at bottom, I can guess the network, but I'm not sure. Can you let me know, or point me somewhere where I could find out?

Thanks in advance. I promise I'll report the findings

ABC shows

All My Children - ABC

Dark Shadows - ABC

General Hospital - ABC

Loving - ABC

One Life to Live - ABC

Ryan’s Hope - ABC

Port Charles - ABC

The City - ABC

CBS shows

As The World Turns – CBS

Capitol - CBS

Guiding Light - CBS

Search for Tomorrow – CBS until ? NBC until ?

The Bold And The Beautiful - CBS

The Edge of Night – CBS until ? ABC until ?

The Young and the Restless - CBS

NBC shows

Another World - NBC

Days of Our Lives - NBC

For Richer, For Poorer - NBC

Generations - NBC

How to Survive a Marriage - NBC

Return to Peyton Place - NBC

Santa Barbara - NBC

Somerset - NBC

Sunset Beach - NBC

Texas - NBC

The Doctors - NBC

Passions - NBC

The Nurses - NBC

Which network?

A Time For Us

A World Apart

Ben Jerrod

Best Of Everything

Bright Promise

Flame In The Wind

From These Roots

Hawkins Falls

Hidden Faces

Love Is A Many Splendored Thing

Love of Life

Lovers and Friends

Moment of Truth

Morning Star

Never Too Young

Our Five Daughters

Paradise Bay

The Brighter Day

The Clear Horizon

The Secret Storm

The Young Marrieds

Valiant Lady

Where The Heart Is

Young Dr. Malone

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I can do it in a few minutes.

April 19, 200916 yr

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I can do it in a few minutes.

Yeah but (says the professor to the student)...don't you have exams to study for?

April 19, 200916 yr

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I do; I can't control myself.

Here is the first part:

ABC shows

All My Children - ABC (1970-present)

Dark Shadows - ABC (1966-1971)

General Hospital - ABC (1963-present)

Loving - ABC (1983-1995)

One Life to Live - ABC (1968-present)

Ryan’s Hope - ABC (1975-1989)

Port Charles - ABC (1997-2003)

The City - ABC (1995-1997)

CBS shows

As The World Turns – CBS (1956-present)

Capitol - CBS (1982-1987)

Guiding Light - CBS (1937-1952 [radio], 1952-present [television])

Search for Tomorrow – CBS (1951-1982) NBC (1982-1986)

The Bold And The Beautiful - CBS (1987-present)

The Edge of Night – CBS (1956-1975) ABC (1975-1984)

The Young and the Restless - CBS (1973-present)

NBC shows

Another World - NBC (1964-1999)

Days of Our Lives - NBC (1965-present)

For Richer, For Poorer - NBC (1977-1978)

Generations - NBC (1989-1991)

How to Survive a Marriage - NBC (1974-1975)

Return to Peyton Place - NBC (1972-1974)

Santa Barbara - NBC (1984-1993)

Somerset - NBC (1970-1976)

Sunset Beach - NBC (1997-1999)

Texas - NBC (1980-1982)

The Doctors - NBC (1963-1982)

Passions - NBC (1999-2007) DirecTV (2007-2008)

The Nurses - NBC (1965-1967)

April 19, 200916 yr

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I can help some

Which network?

A Time For Us ABC

A World Apart ABC

Ben Jerrod NBC

Best Of Everything ABC

Bright Promise NBC

Flame In The Wind (another title for "A Time For Us)

From These Roots NBC

Hawkins Falls NBC

Hidden Faces NBC

Love Is A Many Splendored Thing CBS

Love of Life CBS

Lovers and Friends NBC

Moment of Truth NBC

Morning Star NBC

Never Too Young ABC

Our Five Daughters NBC

Paradise Bay NBC

The Brighter Day CBS

The Clear Horizon CBS

The Secret Storm CBS

The Young Marrieds ABC

Valiant Lady CBS

Where The Heart Is CBS

Young Dr. Malone CBS

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A Time For Us (ABC, 1964-1966)

A World Apart (ABC, 1970-1971)

Ben Jerrod (NBC, early 60s)

Best Of Everything (ABC, March-September 1970)

Bright Promise (NBC, 1969-1972)

Flame In The Wind (ABC, 1964-1966 -- same soap as A Time for Us)

From These Roots (NBC, 1958-1961)

Hawkins Falls (NBC, early 50s)

Hidden Faces (NBC, 1968-1969)

Love Is A Many Splendored Thing (CBS, 1967-1973)

Love of Life (CBS, 1951-1980)

Lovers and Friends (NBC, 1977 -- predecessor to For Richer, For Poorer)

Moment of Truth (NBC, 1965)

Morning Star (NBC, 1965-1966)

Never Too Young (ABC, 1965-1966)

Our Five Daughters (NBC, early 60s)

Paradise Bay (NBC, 1965-1966)

The Brighter Day (CBS, 1954-1962)

The Clear Horizon (CBS, 1960-1962)

The Secret Storm (CBS, 1954-1974)

The Young Marrieds (ABC, 1964-1966)

Valiant Lady (CBS, 1953-1957)

Where The Heart Is (CBS, 1969-1973)

Young Dr. Malone (late 50s, don't know which network)

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A Time For Us/A Flame in the Wind - ABC (1964-1966)

A World Apart - ABC (1970-1971)

Ben Jerrod - NBC (1963)

Best Of Everything - ABC (1970)

Bright Promise - NBC (1969-1972)

From These Roots - NBC (1958-1961)

Hawkins Falls - NBC (1950-1955)

Hidden Faces - NBC (1968-1969)

Love Is A Many Splendored Thing - CBS (1967-1973)

Love of Life - CBS (1951-1980)

Moment of Truth - NBC (1965)

Morning Star - NBC (1965-1966)

Never Too Young - ABC (1965-1966)

Our Five Daughters - NBC (1962)

Paradise Bay - NBC (1965-1966)

The Brighter Day - CBS (1954-1962)

The Clear Horizon - CBS (1960-1962)

The Secret Storm - CBS (1954-1974)

The Young Marrieds - ABC (1964-1966)

Valiant Lady - CBS (1953-1957)

Where The Heart Is - CBS (1968-1973)

Young Dr. Malone - NBC (1958-1963)

"Lovers and Friends" is actually "For Richer for Poorer."

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The Nurses - NBC

This aired on ABC from 1965-1967, not NBC.

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This aired on ABC from 1965-1967, not NBC.

You all rock!

What this will let me do is examine by-network correlations between daytime and primetime since the 1950s.

What it will let me examine (a hypothesis suggested by a SON-Ner) is whether the fortunes of the daypart are linked. Mixed effects models...here I come!

(This is a total distraction from work and personal life, but I need that so badly right now I could spit!).

April 19, 200916 yr

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Okay, thank you for your help with this. It enabled me to complete the analysis I wanted to do.

I did an analysis that examines how daytime ratings rise-and-falls have compared to primetime rise-and-falls over the same period. The short answer is that it is complicated. But as I noted in the ratings thread, and most ominous for soaps, it looks a bit like that in the 2000s soaps fell at a faster rate than primetime. That's not good for the health of the genre.

Thanks to each of you in this thread for your help; I credited you .

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Mark and his graphs.

April 20, 200916 yr

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Mark and his graphs.

I am glad they amuse you. Quantifying really is a huge part of my world view. I'd be a perfect network bean counter.

April 20, 200916 yr

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Wasn't Guiding Light a radio show on NBC? And when it moved to TV, it then went to CBS?

April 20, 200916 yr

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Wasn't Guiding Light a radio show on NBC? And when it moved to TV, it then went to CBS?

I think it switched in either 1948 or 1950. It was around the time the Bauers were first introduced.

April 20, 200916 yr

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I think it switched in either 1948 or 1950. It was around the time the Bauers were first introduced.

Cool. I knew my mind wasn't playing tricks. Thanks.

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