delusions of grandeur

noun

a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are

LMAO!!!

LMAO! Thanks.

I should have known that instead of hearing the reasons why people don't believe soaps are garbage, they just wanted the opportunity to explain to them that while they might not THINK soaps are garbage, they still really are, and they just don't know any better.

Should have known. I guess I, like the rest of those who lack culture and education, should go outside and play in the dirt for a little while. Maybe I'll find a really cool rock or something.

You're welcome! It's my duty to enlighten the uncultured, unintelligent masses.

You can go play in the dirt. I prefer to play in "radioactive toxicity" kthxbye.

Honestly. There are people who downright hate them saying that they cater to the lowest of human instincts, tastes and desires, that they represent a distorted, prettified reality full of false dreams, terrible, clichéd stories written all over again, each time worse than the previous one, abysmal dialogue, dreadful acting, horrific production and so on (many of you know what cultural theorists generally keep underlining)...

Then there are those who swear by them, how true they are to the human condition, how no one does romance and longing like them and so forth...

But in reality and honestly, how much of a sheer garbage they really are? And I am not asking this sarcastically, I wonder genuinely and I hope someone will illuminate me. Among others, perhaps MarkH and marceline?

This post is garbage! "...they represent a distorted, prettified reality full of false dreams, terrible, clichéd stories written all over again..." "...I wonder genuinely and I hope someone will illuminate me..." SERIOUSLY, who talks like this!!?!? Is this a parody? (Or I guess using your dignified vocabulary, we'd have to say 'satire!')

Hm... Here's the thing: you cannot say Verlaine/Rimbaud are trash and say soaps are the highest achievement of dramatic literature. That's just not the way things go. First, you're not an authority on literature. Even if you were, there are people who know better than you. And the fact that you don't understand something a drug addict Romantic poet wrote doesn't mean it's cr*p. I don't like a lot of stuff in literature, music etc., but I know how to appreciate them nonetheless.

You do realize that most people don't know who Verlaine and Rimbaud are, correct? That doesn't make them uncultured or unintelligent. It means that they don't know who Verlaine and Rimbaud are. They don't like poetry, maybe. Maybe they don't like French poetry. Maybe they don't like 19th century French poetry.

Honestly, this makes me laugh. You don't like a lot of stuff in literature and music, but you "appreciate" them nonetheless. Might this be translated as..."Well, I don't get why this is so great, but all of the rich 'intelligent' people say that it's great, so I'll say that it's great." If we were slaves, you'd probably be the one grandstanding to the rest of us that massa knows best.

I keep getting stuck on the title of this thread. Is this even grammatically correct?

"Garbage," I take as a plural, but the "a" singularizes it. A garbage... dump? A heap of garbage?

"Are daytime soaps really garbage, and if so, how much?"

I think that says it better, but maybe I'm reading with my uncultured glasses and misinterpreted. All My Shadows, can you enlighten me?

I thought Verlaine/Rimbaud was a brand of pasta sauce. Whoops!

First of all, I don't believe someone can ask for opinions in one breath and then police and belittle them in the next.

Terms like "Crap", "Garbage", "Art" and "Entertainment" are ALL subjective and interchangeable. One person's trash being another person's treasure, and all that. Believing one person's opinion is more valid than another's is completely disrespectful. And on a basically blind message board, who is to say who knows better than anyone else?

People say the same thing about porn. One person's porn is another person's erotica. I just thought I'd mention that. LOL.

This thread is pure hilarity and bitchery, mixed into a unique concoction. I love it!

I'm not even sure I understand what exactly Sylph is getting at.

I do agree with the "subjective" ideology that is preached in this thread.

But I also think there are a few people who hate soaps and want soaps to be something else than what they are. Hardling Lemay admitted to this in the past. He said he was ashamed of writing soap operas for a long time, and tried his hardest to elevate what he saw as cliche soap writing to something that was more theatrical, and to his credit, he did start off as a playwright. I can't say he was wrong though, after all, his 70's stint at AW is considered a high peak in terms of soap writing. This belief that soaps should be more than what they traditionally were arguably started with Lemay and got much more out of hand with others, like Monty and even Reilly. To their credit, Lemay, Monty, and Reilly brought many people to the soap genre that probably never would've come otherwise.

I keep getting stuck on the title of this thread. Is this even grammatically correct?

"Garbage," I take as a plural, but the "a" singularizes it. A garbage... dump? A heap of garbage?

"Are daytime soaps really garbage, and if so, how much?"

I think that says it better, but maybe I'm reading with my uncultured glasses and misinterpreted. All My Shadows, can you enlighten me?

I thought Verlaine/Rimbaud was a brand of pasta sauce. Whoops!

:lol:

As somebody who's traded numerous barbs with the original poster over the years, I really think Vee said it best with her "dance-puppets-dance-routine" line. But I think his question does provoke some good discussion that I've enjoyed reading, so I'm glad for that... even if his motivations and responses were meant to push people's buttons.

But it is a message board, and I (and I'm only speaking for myself) do enjoy the debate of the question. The talking-down-to, not so much. But you take the good, take the bad. (Take 'em both and there you have... oh, wait. That's a TV theme song. Not very enlightened of me at all. )

People say the same thing about porn. One person's porn is another person's erotica. I just thought I'd mention that. LOL.

Amen, sister!

People say the same thing about porn. One person's porn is another person's erotica. I just thought I'd mention that. LOL.

Oh I ADORE erotica! Can't stand porn, though, that's just unfiltered trash. And anyone who thinks otherwise, well... WE all know what gutter from which THEY crawled out.

What would Kelli McCarty say?!

I'm not even sure I understand what exactly Sylph is getting at.

Only the forensic pharmacology report will know for sure!

You should have posted "I told u I wuz hardcore"

Be sure to cycle over to the next round of mood adjusters for the evening, Sylph, we wouldn't want you to miss any more beats than you already have. How society has gone so long being denied the spectacle of you crawling up your own ass with a "sassy strut" seven days a week I just don't know.

Edited February 9, 200916 yr by Vee

I love the posters at this board. Been laughing my ass off all day without the aid of mood-altering prescription meds. We need a "Best Day Ever" segment on The SON Insider to highlight the good times, like this one.

Back to my rocks and figuring out what brand of pasta sauce to buy now that I've learned the much hyped Verlaine/Rimbaud sauce doesn't exist. D'oh!

I was actually laughing at how much distortion this thread suffered. How it all plummeted like a train off a bridge (yeah, there goes my favourite phrase). It's just hilarious, tragic, unbelievable, a whole lot of things. And all because people thought I was ridiculing bellcurve.

It's in many ways reminiscent of that CH thing on that gossip site. It all ended up with people talking to themselves. A dark night for humanity.