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If Team Trump isn't looking to ditch JDV right now, they're even bigger fools than I thought.

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5 minutes ago, Khan said:

If Team Trump isn't looking to ditch JDV right now, they're even bigger fools than I thought.

I'll believe it when I see it. We all remember the Trump WH whenever a dead man/woman in the admin appeared. Trump hates direct one to one confrontation and prefers to neg and humiliate anyone in his circle in public until they quit voluntarily. Most took forever to do it, or didn't at all and kept on taking it. I do think Trump will turn on him if he hasn't already, he always does. But like Pence and others, I think Vance is determined to keep taking it for a shot at being the latest Trump dignity wraith. I don't think he'll ever quit.

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9 hours ago, Liberty City said:

Oh, we've got this. Now people gotta get their behinds to the fücking polls in November.

Yes, I really think she can do this. She's obviously strong enough to take whatever they can throw at her. I love that she isn't running away from her time as a prosecutor. She didn't make the law. She upheld the law as a sworn officer of the court.

God bless J.D. Vance for showing the world what a tool he is right out of the gate. The cat lady comment was gold. It was such an insult to women as a whole. 

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I think we have a very strong start and I do think we can do this, but Trump's team has barely been able to get their bearings yet. It looks and feels good but I think it's important to stay vigilant. I will say it's a much better start for an unprecedented, insane switch like this than I'd ever expected.

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I do think the Obama 2008 vibe shift comparison some have used for this week has some real accuracy for this moment. But I hesitate to use it myself. I refuse to be too confident about such a pivotal moment.

We knew then that McCain was on the wrong track for America and that we couldn't continue Bush II policies, but McCain was not a deranged autocrat with a history of insurrection who'd packed a corrupt Supreme Court. The stakes are much higher today, the situation is far more dangerous and this entire cycle is far more unstable. We can be happy and excited but we can't let our guard down for an instant.

That said... yes, I do think there is a real similarity to '08 at the immediate moment.

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Tim Walz talking about Vance. This is a great clip. When I first heard what Vance said I was livid for all the childless and child free women in my life, but then I realized what a gift that was to Harris.

 

46 minutes ago, Vee said:

I do think the Obama 2008 vibe shift comparison some have used for this week has some real accuracy for this moment. But I hesitate to use it myself. I refuse to be too confident about such a pivotal moment.

We knew then that McCain was on the wrong track for America and that we couldn't continue Bush II policies, but McCain was not a deranged autocrat with a history of insurrection who'd packed a corrupt Supreme Court. The stakes are much higher today, the situation is far more dangerous and this entire cycle is far more unstable. We can be happy and excited but we can't let our guard down for an instant.

That said... yes, I do think there is a real similarity to '08 at the immediate moment.

I hear that. In November 2016 I was celebrating our first woman President and counting our Supreme Court justices before they were nominated. Not this time. I'm glad to see how excited people are and I'm really happy for black women in particular, but I won't be celebrating until it's official.

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