A nice episode from the short-lived Butcher era of the Vic, with Pat behind the bar.

Den's in trouble, and some nice individual scenes Sharon has with him, Pat, and Michelle.

I always wondered why they seemed to drop Sharon's friendship with Pat during Sharon's return stint in the 00's. She was always very close to Pat in the 80's and 90's, but they rarely interacted much in the 00's. Then again, it seemed like they were phasing out Pat from 2003 onwards. They seemed to build a relationship with Sharon and Pauline, who were never all that close in the 80's and 90's despite their connection to Michelle.

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Edited February 11, 201213 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

I think Pat was so tied in to the Evans family they didn't know how to give her a story with anyone else.

There were a lot of reports in 2003/2004 that Louise Berridge wanted to write Pat out, but wasn't allowed.

Berridge denied this, but I don't think she really cared for Pat. When watching the 2003/2004 episodes on PBS, Pat is rarely on, and when she is, she feels like a gloried dayplayer who supports that pest Laura, and criticizes Janine.

I was watching an episode from July 2002, and Lynne almost left Garry, for some old love. Garry didn't even let her say goodbye, as he was too busy drinking beer and watching football. There was a very good, sobering scene when she went to meet her boyfriend before they ran off, and he sat down to drink a beer and watch football. Lynne had left a note for Garry in the fridge, with his beer. She decided she didn't want to be with her old love and went back home. To her relief, the note had fallen under the fridge. But then at the end, Garry was still ignoring her, still interested only in his game, and she still felt deflated and alone.

This was such a very stark scene, and far more adult than most soap.

Strangely enough, her ex was played by the guy who was the father on the first season of Sarah Jane Adventures.

Did Garry ever find out?

This also had Phil manipulating Lisa as she was in a loveless marriage to Mark. Ugh. I always felt a little sorry for Lisa but that type of thing was just impossible to watch.

Edited February 11, 201213 yr by CarlD2

Garry did find out, I can't remember how though.

It always seemed like Lynne/Garry had a variation of the same storyline with different interlopers during Lynne's time on the show.

I always thought Elaine Lordan was an underrated actress, and Lynne was the most under-appreciated of the original Slater's.

Edited February 11, 201213 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

I thought Lynne was a misery and I felt sorry for Garry but this time I did pity her, mostly because she realized she was leaving one hell for another, and yet was still in hell at the end.

This was also the days of Anthony/Zoe, although fortunately they were only in one scene.

Paul had a girlfriend who was threatened by her crimelord boyfriend (Goldie, who was voted first off Strictly Come Dancing a few years ago) into leaving Paul. Silly and not very well acted stuff, although Paul did a good job. He was underappreciated.

I want to see Lisa return to EastEnders. Her or Kate. I know some people thought Lisa was a bland character but Lucy is a great actress and bringing back Lisa could be a good move if they let her actually have fun for once.

I wasn't a fan of Lynne. She was very annoying and bland. I agree with the idea of Paul being underrated though. I thought he was great, shame he got killed off

P.S. I just tried watching Friday's episode and it turns out I wasn't missing anything. A massive story for Jack and I switched off straight away. He's one of the worst characters in soap at the moment, long overdue an axing, how can good characters depart when deadwood like him stay?

I don't think we'll see Lisa again, especially with the Lucy Benjamin/Steve McFadden issues.

What are the issues between Steve and Lucy? In an interview on This Morning in 2010, Lucy admitted that she was axed from the show in 2003. I've just read online that Lucy has allegedly had lesbian flings?

http://en.wikipedia....i/Lucy_Benjamin

Benjamin's offscreen relationship with EastEnders co-star Steve McFadden was much publicised in the British tabloid press during her time on the show. The relationship allegedly ended after McFadden was caught cheating on her with an ex-lover, Angela Bostock, the mother of his daughter. Bostock fell pregnant again and Benjamin split with McFadden in 2003.

If you want to see more Lucy Benjamin you should watch Jupiter Moon. You should watch it anyway, you'll like it, it's a nice show, cheesy but with heart and likeable characters and good space opera.

Edited February 12, 201213 yr by CarlD2

I'll have a look Carl, I am curious.

I think I'm gonna stop venturing into the DS forums, the amount of crap posted there is ridiclous, I have made my fair share of joke/silly threads, but the amount of support for Derek on there sickens me. He seems to have quite a large fanbase, I feel like I'm living in a parallell universe because I literally cannot comprehend why anyone would like him

Charlie Brooks is taking a 6 month break, there's rumous she wants to commit to doing Strictly Come Dancing during her break.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5h7F0pUF7HawTf1t1FP0lWRIrKqVQ?docId=N0580931329471883880A

This is sad news, as Janine has become the best character on the show, but at least charlie is coming back. If done properly, her exit (before she comes back) could be good.

Gemma McCluskie, who had a role on Eastenders around 2001, went missing last Thursday. Her body was found and a man has been arrested in connection with this.

She played Kerry Skinner, Ethel's great niece. She mostly spent time with the Slaters, and manipulating Robbie Jackson.

The character wasn't very popular, but Gemma certainly played her for all she was worth.

It's such a terrible way to go.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/09/body-canal-eastenders-gemma-mccluskie?newsfeed=true

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UKt1oCfNjM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGljYR8ST4E

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