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That's interesting. I don't know a lot about Chuck and Patti.

I wonder if LOL might have thrived at another network, after CBS canceled it.

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That's interesting. I don't know a lot about Chuck and Patti.

I wonder if LOL might have thrived at another network, after CBS canceled it.

Considering how full ABC's schedule was at that time, the only option would've been NBC who were incapable of keeping the soaps they DID have from spiraling out of control (which spoke more to problems with the network than anything else). I think if they had chosen LOL, they would've put it in the 12:30 slot. I hypothesize that CBS would've canned SFT in '82 anyway, and as soon as Y&R moved into that 12:30 slot, any headway LOL would've made at NBC would've vanished and they'dve been off the air by 1984 at the latest. I don't think any amount of good story could've helped that show at NBC.

MAYBE at ABC if it were put back in the morning, but then it would've run into Price and I don't know that running opposite Price when they were pulling in ratings in the 8's would've been much help either.

CBS had a very strong lineup, but when the weaker pieces of that lineup were pulled away, you really saw how strong CBS was as a BLOCK, not necessarily the individual shows (with the obvious exceptions of Y&R, ATWT and GL).

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Do you think if P&G had not insisted on the block lineup being rearranged in 1972 or 1973, the struggling shows would have lasted longer? The P&G shows might have too...

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Do you think if P&G had not insisted on the block lineup being rearranged in 1972 or 1973, the struggling shows would have lasted longer? The P&G shows might have too...

Absolutely. EDGE being the best example of this. If P&G had left well enough alone I'd say that Edge would still be on now and we wouldn't have an hour of LMAD to contend with. Some of the others I'm not so sure though. I don't think SFT, ATWT or GL sustained any real lasting damage from the moves. I think SFT's real damage was from the one-by-one hacking off of Jo's proverbial limbs in the 70s when they got rid of all of Jo's blood relatives, all in a desperate attempt to woo young viewers. I think SFT had problems, regardless. The "one woman's struggle" angle the show was stuck with hurt them in the long run. I honestly don't think that even under the best of circumstances that SFT would've lasted on CBS past the mid-90s. It was simply too narrow a focus for any soap in that day to really thrive while appealing to their base market, and by then the network would've been crying "younger younger!" at them until they were blue in the face. I don't believe it was possible in the 90s to have a soap focussing on an elderly woman. It would've been very interesting! But the networks wouldn't have gone for it.

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One thing I DID leave off though! I firmly believe that Where The Heart Is should've been left alone to run in a midday block with LIAMST and Y&R. It would've absolutely become the backbone of CBS down the road from a demos POV. WTHI still comes across to me like the kind of soap that had was just a few years ahead of its time, and had CBS been able to handle the criticisms thrown at it, with Labine & Avila Meyer running the show it would've eventually become a monster.

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From the July 1976 Afternoon TV Stars (Lorelei Publishing Co).

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"We had big ads in The Times, and got eighteen or nineteen great reviews from other papers and magazines...including one by Stanley Kaufman in The New Republic which hasn't come out yet." Now, that's not a bad score at all. Twenty for, none against.

"It's the first theater I've done in New York City," Ray goes on. "Before coming here, all I did was stage work, with 'Love of Life' my first network TV show. Since I Joined the show, it's been all TV till this." And it looks like Ray has been bitten again by the old bug.

"I loved it," is his unequivocal reaction to the experience of appearing before live audiences. "And do you know that the play hasn't been successfully revived since the twenties, when it was written?" The satisfaction is evident in his voice. "Everybody thought it was too dated." Just goes to show. All it takes is first-rate talent to realize the potential of great material, and to give it meaning for a contemporary public.

Ray, by the way, quietly celebrated his first wedding anniversary on December 28th, and by now is happily putting another half-year under his trim marital belt. His wife, the lovely JULIET BURR, is continuing with her own modeling career, which is just as quietly spiraling upward.

"Julie," he says with what could only be described as cautious elation," is up for the Breck girl." That's the shampoo lady, for those of you who might mistake the term for the title of a Victor Herbert operetta. "She hasn't heard yet if she's going to get it, but she's right up there with the finalists. If she makes it, that means her face will be on all their bottles, as well as magazines and billboards, not to mention TV commercials. It would be fantastic."

"My family came up from Ohio for the weekend to see the closing performance of the play," he adds, obviously happy to be surrounded by them. "And Juliet's sister Debbie is here with her boyfriend, too."

Which brings Ray to a bit of sad news. That production of "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" he was going to do with his in-laws this coming summer in Easthampton is off. "The whole thing fell through," he announces with a touch of disappointment.

"Bobby can't do it after all," is as much of an explanation that we get out of Ray. "Bobby," of course is his father-in-law ROBERT BURR, well-known actor and former colleague on "LOL." He played the dual role of Paul Raven/Matt Corby. - Barry Grael

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From the November 6, 1979 Digest (S. O. D. Publishing Inc.). Christopher Reeves returns to the LOL set.

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Reading a SOD interview with Einar Perry Scott who was playing Nels,James assistant on ATWT at the time(1982) and he staes that he played Alan Sterling on Love of Life. Checking various sources and none of them have him listed in that role.

The actors listed as playing Alan are Dan Ferrone,jim Bayer, Dennis Cooney and John Fink.

So,did he also play the role for a short time(weeks/months) and it has never been noted or did he use the name Jim Bayer for that role. i ask that because on IMDB Jim Bayer has LOL as his sole credit.while al the others have multiple credits.

Anyone know more?

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wife, keeping her secret to herself.

Although Charles desired her, he agreed to wait until the honeymoon for a night of romance. But a marriage license didn't make the difference Felicia hoped it would and a chilling panic set in as they approached their little honeymoon cottage in the woods. While Charles eagerly displayed his passion to his bride, he was stung by her chaste refusal to be intimate. Yet, compassion man that he is, he consoled Felicia with loving - but innocent - caresses. It just takes time, he told his trembling wife. He remembered his own sexual problems.

When the couple returned to Rosehill they pretended their marriage was a success. But Felicia felt humiliated that she could not satisfy her husband in the way that other wives could and her guilt caused the rift between her and Charles to widen. Charles persuaded her to seek help again to solve her problems as it had become apparent to him that Felicia was caught in the grip of sexual terror his love alone could not cure. He was convinced that her frigidity was a result of her obsessive terror of sex.

When Felicia claimed that a man had broken into her apartment and tried not only to rape her but abused her emotionally with sordid language and filthy words, Charles became exasperated and blamed this episode on Felicia's wild sexual fantasies. Poor Felicia. Her ravings about the would-be rapist had made her the laughingstock of Rosehill. But one man stuck by her - Edouard Aleata. His firm belief in Felicia, in addition to his respect for her artistic ability, caused her to rely on him more and more.

When Arnie began writing him notes telling him that Felicia and Edouard were having an affair, Charles finally came to believe that his wife's fears of assault were not wild imaginings, but the truth. But with the truth came the suspicion that Eddie and Felicia were indeed having an affair. After all, every time he found them together, Felicia seemed as happy as could be. Finally, Charles and Felicia separate for a short time to see if they could work things out alone.

Through her paintings, Felicia realized that she no longer wanted Charles to protect her from himself. She wanted him, as a woman wants a man. Planning to surprise him with this sexual awakening, she hurried to his home.

Instead of Charles, Arnie arrived. He took her to his truck and held a knife to her neck, attempting to violate her. By knocking him unconscious, Felicia managed to escape. In a frenzy she ran to her studio, grabbed her gun and aimed it at the door, determined to save herself from the sadistic punk. As soon as the smoke cleared, Charles was lying there unconscious, a bullet lodged in his spine.

Although it was an accident, the effect on Felicia may be exceedingly detrimental, having come at a time when she had decided to try to overcome her repugnance for sex. It also has affected her feelings about herself as an artist. She now believes that people are buying her works only because of the sensationalism of her shooting her husband. And poor Charles may never be able to walk again. Trapped in his hospital bed, his imagination drives him wild with visions of Felicia and Edouard together. Yet, crippled, how can he hope to compete for his wife's love when his competition is the suave, continental Eddie. He is totally helpless and praying that Felicia will remember her wedding vows and stay by his side through sickness and in health.

Helpless as the situation is for Charles and Felicia for Arlene and Ben things seem equally hopeless. Since coming to Rosehill, they have been caught up in a web of lies created by Ben. In order to acquire $500,000 promised him by his mother Meg he married Betsy Crawford. He and Arlene were already married and Ben's original plan was to leave as soon as he got his hands on the loot. But Meg was nobody's fool, let alone her son's, so she kept putting off giving him the money. Weeks turned into months. Arlene was getting impatient. To the Devil with the money, she began to feel. She wanted her husband back. She sensed that Ben was falling in love with his illegal wife Betsy. Lo and behold! Betsy became pregnant and Meg put the money promised to Ben in a trust fund for the baby.

Arlene was not prepared to give up what she had sacrificed for. But, when Meg found out about her son's secret marriage, all hope for the success of Ben and Arlene's lie vanished. Now it is up to Ben to decide which woman he wants to keep as his wife, and see if he can.

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Loving these articles Carl esp about the cancelled shows.

Charles lasted a long time on LOL. although he seems abit of a loser type character. Charles and Diana never seemed to have a story until the mid 70's when he developed sexual problems and they broke up. i guess up till that time they had been supporting characters,rather like Stu and Marge on SFT, advising Van and Bruce and dealing with Bill and Tess's problems.i think that he was never given a send off,just faded away,never to be mentioned.

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Thanks for reading them. I always look forward to what you have to say.

That's too bad the character just vanished. Maybe he would have been better if he'd stayed as a supporting character.

Was Diana gone by this time?

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After an affair and pregnancy by the much younger Jamie Rollins(she lost that baby) Diana sought solace in religion and retreated to a convent.That was in 76.

Charles second wife Felicia,fell for Eddie Aleata,Meg's ex and died in childbirth

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