Pushed her shoulder? I'm pretty sure Nat could have survived that, not that I think it's reasonable to think Nash would have done that to his wife's sister. Nash has never slapped a woman and I don't think finger pointing is any reason to think he would have done so. Again, Jared could have easily stepped between Nash and Nat or Natalie could have stepped back if she were afraid, but she didn't look to me like she though Nash was going to hurt her and she has never said she thought that would happen and neither has Jared.

Natalie and Nash were mere inches apart. Nobody could have just stepped in the middle of that or broken it up without pulling Nash out of the way. And whether or not Nash had slapped a woman before doesn't really matter when he's in a violent state of mind, waving his finger around in someone's face while screaming at them at the top of his lungs. "Oh, Nash wouldn't hit Natalie, so I'll just let him [!@#$%^&*] a brick all over her." Even if Jared didn't think that Nash would have hit Natalie, I still believe that a natural reaction for anyone would be to pull Nash out of the way, especially if the person he's a-wagging at is the person that you love.

Anyway, I'm not denying that Nash played a small part in what happened. However, it's not as if Nash punched Jared and then Jared punched him back in self defense. Jared had plenty of time to think about what he was doing and the consequences. As far as I'm concerned he bares a lot more responsibility than Nash, since Nash at least had the sense not to punch Jared through a skyelight.

When you subtract the time for him to get his bearings back together after Nash clocked him, I'm sure it wasn't that much time.

If someone had killed my husband or brother in these circumstances I would expect them to be punished in some way and I think they would be. You can't just go around killing people because they might push or slap someone else. It doesn't matter if it's an accident or not.

Oh, do I believe that Jared should face charges of involuntary manslaughter? Yes. I don't like how Jessica is making it out as if big, bad old devilish Jared orchestrated this entire fraud just so that he could throw poor, sweet old immaculate Nash over a balcony and through a skylight. It should be what it is and nothing more. It was involuntary manslaughter, criminal negligence, recklessness, whatever you want to call it. Not murder. Not murder. Not murder. We didn't see Jared's eyes glass over a la the Incredible Hulk.

And I feel just as strongly and will not change my opinion either so I guess we'll just have to disagree.

Yes we will. I have no problems letting my opinions play with the opinions of others', so I'm glad we can have a little spirited discussion about it all without it getting personal.

But, please know, that if you want to really get down and fight about this, I know the location of a reeeeal good skylight, so don't be pushin' my buttons or anything.

I love your posts, but how much of your opinion is based on the fact that Jared has a hot ass, and chest, and stomach, and arms, and bulge, and legs, and face, and hair, and wardrobe ...

Just teasing.

LOL!

Believe it or not, not much. I just have this need to defend the characters that I'm attached to for some reason. I don't know...certain characters, I just feel for them and find it hard to hate them. It's my unconditional soap character love lol. It always comes out when the majority hates on a character that I heart. See, if Roxy was in this type of situation, I'd be defending her just as much. Certain characters bring it out in me...Jared does, Roxy would, Brody would, Gigi would, I think Langston probably would, too. Don't even get me started on how I spent a good two and a half years defending AMC's Babe. I think I passed the bar exam somewhere in there...

But all of Jared's physical perks do make it easier for me to try to uphold his name!

Huh? I thought Talia had no ties to Llanview. Do we even know who her parents are? I was off-and-on when she was introduced, but there were no ties that I knew of.

But yeah, I agree that she was definitely being forced. The way they handled that whole thing is interesting. Like, how did she get overpowered so easily? And then they sort of left off, and picked up today with her making the phone call.

We will find out in the coming days who her daddy is

We will find out in the coming days who her daddy is

I think her dad is Carloand that's the only reason she helped out Jonas who I suspect is working for him.

Really loved the Nash montage today. Whoever said 'Forbes must have been hated' spoke a little too soon (was it me? I don't remember)

Bree/Jess was so SOAPY!

Loved it when she threatened to open the casket.

Tomorrow with Tess and Nash's corpse looks pretty damn wild.

Talia was obviously forced to do that. She looked nervous as hell and remember Jonas "handled" her yesterday. I'm sure that has something to do with it.

Either that or she's evil like daddy.

Jonas was with her yesterday and then left her. She couldnt have informed Antonio or John in that timespan? Why did she sell out her friend. She's a cop and from what I saw, it looked like that could have been avoided. Now had he been with her the whole time, holding a gun to her head, then thats a different story

Jay, use spoiler tags when you tease!

Jay, use spoiler tags when you tease!

thanks for this. I pretty much know whats coming up now Would have made for a great shocker

Edited June 27, 200817 yr by Cheap21

Jonas was with her yesterday and then left her. She couldnt have informed Antonio or John in that timespan? Why did she sell out her friend. She's a cop and from what I saw, it looked like that could have been avoided. Now had he been with her the whole time, holding a gun to her head, then thats a different story

Agree

thanks for this. I pretty much know whats coming up now Would have made for a great shocker

I know how you feel. Someone spoiled it for me last week. I was pissed because it's such a great spoiler.

That whole thing with Talia confuses me. Maybe there's something else going on, like maybe he has something on her and that's why she reacted the way she did. There is a large time frame that is unaccounted for and I have a feeling they'll explain it later. I mean how did it go from Talia having a gun on Jonas to her lying to Antonio even though she was alone? Something else happened during that time and I'm anxious to find out what.

Tags to tease? wow... Get us some tease tags Toups.- that's alliteration.

Edited June 27, 200817 yr by Dr. Jay S.W.

If you weren't out reading spoilers to know whos coming back, then you wouldnt have any idea whats coming.

Edited June 27, 200817 yr by Dr. Jay S.W.

Tags to tease? wow...

Yup!

Spoiler free people don't know that Talia's behavior probably has to do something with her father.

Tag all spoilers, all teasers, all rumours.

I must protect those who are spoiler free!

Yup!

Spoiler free people don't know that Talia's behavior probably has to do something with her father.

Tag all spoilers, all teasers, all rumours.

I must protect those who are spoiler free!

Yes sir.

Yup!

Spoiler free people don't know that Talia's behavior probably has to do something with her father.

Tag all spoilers, all teasers, all rumours.

I must protect those who are spoiler free!

Those who avoide spoilers didnt even know Talia was getting any family