Members Ann_SS Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 As long as Wheeler and Goutman bring GL and ATWT in under budget, CBS and P&G are happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brimike Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 And THAT, my friends, tells you exactly where P&G, the once legendary owners of daytime, now stand on their soap opera division. They care so much, they didn't even bother to replace Mickey Dwyer-Dobbin when she retired. THEY. DO. NOT. CARE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brimike Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 Thing is, the more I think about this, I can't fault him for his opinions. He has a right to them. HOWEVER... When you're an EP who has been REPEATEDLY bashed in the press for months now over two very high-profile firings AND the Nuke stuff, WHY WHY WHY would you say something to a reporter that would put ANOTHER target on your back by the fans. I'm all for being honest, but it's not like Goutman's the kind of EP who opens up to the fans on a regular basis - so why say anything at all NOW, when you need all the good PR you can get?! It just doesn't make any sense. Just a dumb move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 CBS does too - he just doesnt listen. He said he doesnt even read the mail report. wtf is that? for thoise that may be unsure the mail report (at least at the soaps i know of this is how it works) is a report the interns make. they read the letters adressed to the network and fill out a report summing it all up and turn it in. (and they have the same for the net) if he isnt even reading that then... wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TC Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 He'd be screaming it from the rooftops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DevotedToAMC Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 Does he read period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kelly1142 Posted May 18, 2008 Members Share Posted May 18, 2008 The whole article ticked me off. And for him to say Scott Bryce was the problem with the Quad of Doom and THAT'S why he got fired? B/C Chris didn't like the set up of the story? Please. That's the WRITERS fault, NOT Scott Bryce's. The fact is, Scott Bryce's Craig was the ONLY redeeming aspect of that quad. And that was the problem. We weren't supposed to root for Craig. We were supposed to root for poor, victimized Paul and Meg to overcome the OMG!EVUL! Craig and Rosanna (which, of course was lather/rinse/repeat of poor, victimized Paul and Meg having to overcome OMG!EVUL! Craig and Emily in 2006 - and I was rooting for Craig and Emily then too LOL!). Only Scott Bryce made Craig rootworthy, despite all the crap they had Craig pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted May 18, 2008 Members Share Posted May 18, 2008 Kel, I don't think Goutman said anything about Scott being the "problem" with the story. He said the problem was the story and the set up. That, to me, means he's laying it at JP's feet. What he should have done, is have JP "fix" it, instead of firing Jeff Meek. Instead, what he did was fire Meek, hire Bryce, and entice McClain back. Putting lipstick on the pig didn't work, so he fired Bryce, and wrapped up the story early. His biggest mistake continues to be standing by JP, as the stories continue to suck. What's funny is that there has to be a cheaper writer out there, somewhere. He's gone bargain basement on everything else.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kelly1142 Posted May 18, 2008 Members Share Posted May 18, 2008 But see to me, by firing him? He's saying he's the problem. There were plenty of other places on canvas for Craig to go, they could have put him in a completely different story, but they chose not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Adam Posted May 18, 2008 Members Share Posted May 18, 2008 What an a-hole. I mean We know Frons doesn't care about the fans, but at least he has the good sense to not come out and say their opinions don't matter. Goodness.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soapsuds Posted May 18, 2008 Members Share Posted May 18, 2008 I say bring back Laurence Caso as EP again. Goutman needs to go just as bad as Pissant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ann_SS Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 ATWT doesn't move characters around any more. Characters have specific roles related to established couples as prescribed by TPTB and their demanding fanbases and they aren't allowed to do anything else. Look at Jade, she was Lily's niece, but all she was allowed to do is be an obstacle for Gwen and Will. Next we have Craig whose sole purpose was to be an obstacle for Meg and Pual. Craig is now replaced with NuMike who would probably be better used in the Carly/Jack story, but instead he is stuck in the Paul/Meg hell along with the terrible Sophie who has no other purpose. Once a character isn't working that specific story, TPTB are more likely rid of them than to rework the story and character's role, especially if the actors are considered expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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