The Siobhan scene with the police training still makes me laugh and is what I associate this recast with.

@DRW50 Thanks for the promos!

On 1/2/2026 at 8:38 AM, Chris 2 said:

Daniel Hugh Kelly is a leading man types which is what was needed for Frank Ryan. Andrew Robinson isn’t, and I knew as soon as he showed up that he wouldn’t work as Frank.

Yes, Andrew Robinson said they wanted a different kind of leading man.

When looking at old SN notes, posters had found transcripts of Star Trek conventions where Andrew talked about RH. It's where many of us heard about the Christmas day firing story for the first time. How when Labine and Mayer were courting Andrew for the role, they told him that the audience rooted for Frank. He liked the idea of playing a sympathetic character for a change. He said the feedback he received from that audience was positive.

Daniel Hugh Kelly's issue when he began was that he was so young. He was 25 years old-- and looked he looked 25 years old! Also noted after the first rewind was that Daniel's Frank wasn't as much of the big brother Frank that Michael Hawkins and Andrew Robinson were -- they both spent more time in sibling mode.

More age notes

Kimberly's arrival led to making Rae younger -- much younger. Rae being 17 when Kimberly was born

Kim was using birthdates to get into Rae's safe

Frank 5-28- 1946
Rae 10-12-1944
Kim 1-22-1962

Rae would have only been 19 months older than Frank. During their earlier involvement, Rae was told Frank that there was gossip about them -- gossip she said about Frank and an older woman. Soapnet posters called Rae a cougar. It was already noted that Jill was a little older than Frank but Rae's birthdate also meant that Jill was likely older than Rae, too. During Kim's snooping for birthdates, Jill said she was a Leo baby giving Jill a July/August 1944 birthday (that earlier it had been said Jill was 6 years older than Faith).

I don't recall how old Kimberly was when she turned up on Rae's door. She said she had turned 17 in the summer of 1979. She was then a quickly given an slightly earlier birthday to make her 18 in January 1980 to make it not seem as bad for a relationship with Seneca.

In 1977, Marguerite Beaulac said Seneca was 15 in 1952 so that made Seneca's birth year 1937 -- and 25 years older than Kimberly.

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Frank's birthday is really interesting. The date, not the year. I remember the scene where Kim asked Jill about their birthdays and she mentioned Frank was a Gemini.

Frank was obviously modeled after John F. Kennedy. Frank was supposed to be killed off very early in the show. I think Labine and Mayer might have even said that in interviews, I'm not sure. He was going to be the tragic lost son who was cut down before he could reach his full potential.

It might be a total coincidence, but Kennedy was a Gemini and his birth date was May 29. (If it was exactly the same date, I would be convinced it wasn't a coincidence).

(Jill was totally a Leo 😂).