Members Wales2004 Posted April 11, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 Here's my theory. I think that one of the things the writers of ABC soaps do well is write these little make the online fans happy moments, regardless of whether they make sense in a s/l or not (and I don't even think the do stories as much as they do plots points). I've read on various boards how Lulu needs to be told off, etc., and the magnificent writers decided to give the "fans" their moment and it seems to have pleased some people. I don't think it makes one iota of difference that what Kate said wasn't her place to say since it was irrelevant to the real working issue with Lulu. The wrong characters are constantly used to say the "right" thing and when the right characters say it one episode, they backtrack in the next. It's momentary gratification because it very seldom is followed by any sort of consistency. I don't really care for Lulu and I think having a scene where she is put in her place would be great but I don't think Kate is the one and yet it happened anyway. I'm not sure that they won't spin the shooting later to try and make it Trevor's doing but if I stay within the confines of this plot point then the blame solely rests with Devlin and the Zaccharas. Sonny's always going to be indirectly at fault no matter how they spin their tales but one can just as easily say that had Sonny handled the Zaccharas there would have been an all out mob war that would have led to casualties and there's nothing to say that Michael wouldn't have been one of them, but dabbling in that is like dabbling in reality and realistically the mob would never be as lame as portrayed on GH. This is written to absolve Sonny since they assume that the average viewer reacts to instant stimuli and knows that Sonny has a heart of gold and wuvs his children and is a more honorable man than ten incompetent cops. It's Johnny's fault but he's just a baby himself and he wants to own up to it which gives him major points and a bit of a pass. It's Claudia's fault but we can see that she's got daddy issues and some sordid traumatic childhood pain that we'll become absorbed in and will keep us flighty viewers from remembering that she ordered the hit. Devlin has no immunity unless this gets spun. However, who knows whether he'll have nightmares that will evoke sympathy for him as well. They pretty much have most viewers pegged. People that watch soaps should have a hard time applying moral standards to them because the reality is that soaps are not about highly moral characters at all. I notice that some people that are all over one character questioning virtues can totally embrace another character that is even more corrupt and use the most interesting justification of it, which is often rooted in perception derived from blind hatred. I gave up a long time ago since I didn't feel like justifying how I could watch shows on which a rapist becomes some misunderstood soul who had a perfectly plausible reason for rape which became seduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members detroitpiston Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 Yep just like TB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 TB has one nomination, thank you very much. LW has.....ZERO Sorry, I couldn't resist, and you know I'm not the biggest LW fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members detroitpiston Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 She'll still didn't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Skin Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 Yeah she actually got a pretty significant nomination. Lead Actress. How bout them apples. LW hasn't had ANY. Deservedly so. Cause you know she's horrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members detroitpiston Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 Look at the above post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Skin Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 I would say a nomination is better then not getting recognized at all. The fact that Braun was in the soap industry for 4 years and got a nomination in one of the most signifcant categories in the entire soap industry shows more for her then against her. Where as Laura Wright has been in the industry for nearly two decades and still has yet to scrap a nomination. That's just embaressing. Especially considering she was in the industry when she could have gone under the category of Younger Actress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 Word. I'm sorry, all I see is utter fakeness in Wright's performances. She tries too damn hard, its like you know she wants an Emmy, so she'll chew the hell out of the scenery in an attempt to get some recognition, and it just never works. I didn't like her sub par and ineffective acting on Loving/The City, GL, and certainly not on GH, this is just my opinion of course. Sarah Brown's Carly might have as abrasive if not more than Wright's, but Brown added so much subtext and emotionally vulnerability to the role. With Tamara, she like Wright, inherited a character that has become lost and annoying. The only thing is Braun grew in the role and as time went on, she learnt how to play Carly with some layers and vulnerability. I've hated Wright's performance from day one and she has yet to grow on me, when she's in subtle scenes, she comes off as so fake and misguided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members detroitpiston Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 Anyway, Emily just needs to go. I'm so sick of her, it's time she walked into the light already. And thank God Luke put Lulu in her place, even though he kinda has no right too seeing as he didn't raise her. But its high time someone let her know that what she is doing is dumb and that she needs to mind her own damn buisness, unless she likes getting shot at and kidnapped or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Skin Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 I just don't think Wright knows how to emote anything other then this other worldly bitch. That's really the only thing she has going for her. She isn't believable in scenes as a mother, she isn't believable in scenes as a vulnerable woman. She simply isn't effective as a sympathetic actress. I can't call an actress who is only able to sell one emotion as an excellent actress. I am not going to say she can't act because she can. But I am going to say she has no versatility and she has made Carly into a one minded she beast. That's what makes her "emotional/greif" scenes so weak. She can't sell those because she didn't bother adding any nauces into her role for the last two plus years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members detroitpiston Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 Skin did you see Laura on GL? I think she is most definitely able to portray more than a bitch. And I find her out of all the Carly's to be the most believable as a mother. Certainly more than TB did IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petunia Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 I find Laura's Carly very believable as a mother. Her scenes with her kids have always made me believe she loves those kids very much. Never doubted that once. And I think she's knocking these scenes out of the park with Michael right now. And what she says to Sonny tomorrow in the previews I totally agree with. If I just heard that my ex, the father of my son, pushed his GF out of the way and not his son I would react the same way. The only thing wrong with "this Carly" is her obsession with Jason. Wish they'd stop with that already. It makes Carly very annoying and needy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Skin Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 I see no chemistry between her and those children. Morgan is little more then a household object. I do not see LW's Carly as maternal and I never have. Tamara was much more believable as the woman who birthed and delivered Micheal. When looking at the youtube clip provided a few pages back we can see the connection that Carly feels with Micheal. We saw how much it hurt her to see her baby dead in the picture. She even said that she would FEEL it if her son died because he was apart of her. TB's connection and ability to emote maternal feelings toward the audience were directly on point. We felt the connection Carly had with Micheal. LW's Carly supposedly has all of these "instincts" concerning Micheal however the screen presence is NOT there. It's not believable that Carly is this safe, nurturing person. It's not believable that she is a tender, dotting mother who lives to be apart of her childrens day. It isn't believable that Carly would die for her children. LW simply doesn't emote that much undying, unconditional love for her children. Even now when Micheal is in a coma I don't feel the all consuming love a mother is supposed to have for her children as it simply isn't there for Wright. I believe someone once said that Leticia was more to a mother to those children then Carly was and I have a hard time arguing that now that LW is in the role. She does not seem maternal or warm feeling at all. I will even go on to say that I don't even see her being able to play sensitivity, romance in addition to her failure to emote maternal emotions. She simply does not come across as a loving, sympathetic character. Contrast LW with Megan Ward, Rebecca Herbst, Natalia Livingston, even the actress who plays Nadine and there is a big gap and much to be desired in LW's portrayal. She doesn't come across as sincere or vulnerable AT ALL. The bitch is always there and that's much of the problem. LW came in from day one with the attitude of "I am a bitch and that is all I am" and now her performances are suffering for it. Contrast this to the portrayals of Tamara and Sarah both of which infused within Carly a sense of loss, vulnerability and undertones of longing to be happy and there is a complete and seperate character then what LW's Carly is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petunia Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 I don't compare Carly to Liz, Nadine or Kate because her character is nothing like them. I don't see Carly as vulnerable, I see her as a woman who is very capable of taking care of herself and knows it. She's also a woman who knows what she wants and goes after it. Carly is not my fave character by any means but I still think Laura is doing the best possible job with the writing she's being given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Skin Posted April 11, 2008 Members Share Posted April 11, 2008 That's not really my point. My point was that those following actresses are able to inspire maternal feelings, caring and sensitivity into thier roles. They are all sympathetic actresses. They all possess likeable qualities that LW notablly lacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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