JP, it's funny you mention Cane/Lauren. DG has a really strong rapport with practically every older female he has a scene with -- Jess Walton, Jeanne Cooper, MTS. He and JW in particular.

That's cause he's closer to their age than Lily's. lol

That's cause he's closer to their age than Lily's. lol

LOL Jeanne Cooper?

Yeah, he does come across as more mature. In fact, he'd seem more comfortable hanging with Neil and Nick than, say, Colleen or Kevin or one of Lily's peers.

LOL Jeanne Cooper?

Yeah, he does come across as more mature. In fact, he'd seem more comfortable hanging with Neil and Nick than, say, Colleen or Kevin or one of Lily's peers.

LOL. Victoria, Nick & Sharon are who Cane should be friends with but this show will NEVER stop with the Nick propping.

Edited March 18, 200817 yr by DeeeDee

C'mon! Vail Bloom? Tammin Sursoks? Adrienne Frantz? Thad "Steve Burton Iz Mah Idol" Luckinbill? The chick who plays Sabrina?

Yeah, I don't find the actresses you mentioned bad actresses because I can think of several instances when I enjoyed them (exception:Tammin).

Vail was annoying but she tried hard to deliver those craptastic lines well. I appreciated her as an actress for that.

Adrienne Frantz was good on B&B. (I think)

And Raya's good, too. She doesn't have anything major yet. I say give her a chance and see what she can do.

Thad Luckinbill was also good against 1st Mac and 1st Colleen AND Brittany... and Brittany's mom. Great chemistry with those women. But not with Amelia.

I guess it's everyone's opinion, really, of who's good and who's not.

Yeah, I don't find the actresses you mentioned bad actresses because I can think of several instances when I enjoyed them (exception:Tammin).

Vail was annoying but she tried hard to deliver those craptastic lines well. I appreciated her as an actress for that.

Adrienne Frantz was good on B&B. (I think)

And Raya's good, too. She doesn't have anything major yet. I say give her a chance and see what she can do.

Thad Luckinbill was also good against 1st Mac and 1st Colleen AND Brittany... and Brittany's mom. Great chemistry with those women. But not with Amelia.

I guess it's everyone's opinion, really, of who's good and who's not.

LOL, as you say, different strokes for different folks. I personally cringe whenever TL or Maya Meddine open their mouths to deliver a line but I'm willing to wait and see where their stories go to be convinced otherwise.

IA about Vail, she got some shitastic dialogue.

AF is growing on me because she seems like a great person IRL and she and MG are so sparky. But Amber was the horse that practically ate B&B alive. And I'm still not fully recovered from that whole porn site/mole on her left breast horror from last year.

AF is growing on me because she seems like a great person IRL and she and MG are so sparky.

Too bad they almost had to destroy Daniel to do it.

didn't davetta basically get herself fired from this show? that's what i remember hearing. apparently she kept acting like some sort of diva.

Christel really is not the worst actor on Y&R. C'mon! Vail Bloom? Tammin Sursoks? Adrienne Frantz? Thad "Steve Burton Iz Mah Idol" Luckinbill? The chick who plays Sabrina?

I actually do not think VB is a bad actress, she just isnt a good actress. i find it hard to judge her because her char never did ANYTHING. besides, i did think she and DD had some chem going on so it worked for me. I will give you TS, shes awful. But AF? I do not think shes awful at all. Yes she does overact and is over the top and makes amber trash - but this is Amber, she does over react, is over the top, and is trash. as for TL, i like him too, i do not love him, but he is not awful. He works in the role he is in. again i will give you chick who plays Sabrina, shes horrid.

But CK is awful. I can tell shes trying to remember her lkines and think of how to say them as she is doing the scene. It is sad. I could deal if she was blahh, or even if she was an awful actress, but it is like she doesnt know how to act. and that is not okay - esp after years.

And with CK winning the NAACP award, it brings the show some sort of credit as serving audiences of color.

Well we can't go by this since Y&R always win this award. I bet if Davetta was stil lthere she would have gotten this award.

I am hopeful that we will get some Michael and Lauren in , at the very least, their own storyline, soon. I was so happy to even see them today.

CK is hot and cold for me. Just when I think she is coming into her won as a performer, she seems to slip backwards and bore me a little. Maybe she will grow up in this storyline with DG.

As for Davetta, I am not sure it would have worked chemistry wise, but we will never know. I also wonder if, since Davetta was darker than CK, they would have gone there. It would have been great and somewhat of a statement to have an obviously interracial couple together. I always wondered why, after a while, Lily and Daniel stopped being affectionate in their scenes together. They became like really "good friends" to me. I think the show feels more comfortable with CK as Lily because they can pair her with either men of all shades of the rainbow and still get credit for a "daring" pairing.

See this is PRECISELY why I couldn't get behind the Devetta/Khalil controversy, because I knew deep down at the core, some people saw this as a dark skin/light skin issue. That right there bugs the hell out of me.

Edited March 18, 200817 yr by MTSRocks

Other than the obvious acting, the writing for Lily has generally been HORRIBLE, no matter the actress who was playing her.

Though I certainly bought Devetta and Adrienne Leon as best friends, Christel and Tammin don't click at all, but of course Latham had to get rid of both Sherwood and Leon....

Okay, I hope they aren't going to write Adam as someone that only has one focus on Phyllis....At a point it becomes annoying to have a conversation about business and then BOOM, he starts talking about Phyllis and he ex-husband; Phyllis and her affair with Nick; Phyllis being the brains behind everything....I would rather have Adam be in an actual storyline where the female isn't the driving reason to stir up trouble for the already fragile Newman family....They can honestly have a storyline where it is a big focus on Nick, Victoria vs Adam...We don't need to truly have Adam sniffing around Phyllis to stir up trouble for Nick...it's been done way too many times, and we don't need Phyllis to bed another Newman, so to speak.

I saw the previews and I could honestly say that Danny, as always is so used to using the blame game all the time....Sorry but nobody prevented him from trying to see how his son is; if he truly wanted to be in his son's life, he has a mouth and he could have used it at anytime....so blaming Phyllis for the mere fact of not forewarning Daniel ahead of time is a bogus excuse for Danny's own shortcomings.... Danny could have made attempts to get back into Daniel's life...it's his own fault that he hadn't...

I nearly fell out of my seat listening to the message Sharon was listening to that Alistar had on his phone....

I take it that the spoiler I have that says :

Someone innocent gets hurt due to the scheme cooked up by Jack. Sharon and Jeff is talking about Lauren, since her nosey butt is staying at the house....

Okay, I hope they aren't going to write Adam as someone that only has one focus on Phyllis....At a point it becomes annoying to have a conversation about business and then BOOM, he starts talking about Phyllis and he ex-husband; Phyllis and her affair with Nick; Phyllis being the brains behind everything....I would rather have Adam be in an actual storyline where the female isn't the driving reason to stir up trouble for the already fragile Newman family....They can honestly have a storyline where it is a big focus on Nick, Victoria vs Adam...We don't need to truly have Adam sniffing around Phyllis to stir up trouble for Nick...it's been done way too many times, and we don't need Phyllis to bed another Newman, so to speak.

Didn't you know? Phyllis is the center of the universe.

Didn't you know? Phyllis is the center of the universe.

Ooooo, you told me

I personally would love to see a storyline where a woman wasn't the issue, but rather family strains being the issue; and Adam's being there alone is enough to have a good storyline where both Victoria and Nick have their own different struggles in dealing with his being there.

I personally would love to see a storyline where a woman wasn't the issue, but rather family strains being the issue; and Adam's being there alone is enough to have a good storyline where both Victoria and Nick have their own different struggles in dealing with his being there.

Word!

It's stupid that Victor Jr. & the entire Newman family is being sacrificed when there's SO much good story there for everyone involved especially they've struggled since Heather Tom left.