This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

Edited November 6, 200817 yr by Toups

McCain overtakes Obama , Clinton in the polls by attracting Dems!

I am not saying they have not done damage to the black community because they have....Bill would have been better just shutting his mouth when saying something controversial against a black person. But we can work together (meaning Obama and Hillary if they are the ticket...I don't see him choosing Janet Napolitano as someone suggested because she doesn't draw women and Asian voters the way Hillary does) to mend any rifts with the African American people so that they understand it is perfectly fine to vote for a Clinton after all was said and done.

I can understand the thought process that results in believing that Barack Obama should work within the network to mend the rifts since it would benefit Hilary Clinton. What I don't understand and perhaps you can help me out with this is why the people who have been "damaged" (for lack of a better term) should fall into line because Barack Obama says they should? Sure he can pull out a party united against the Republicans speech but who is to say that some of those "damaged" people are seeing a difference between either party when it comes to feeling they've been snubbed.

The debate was probably a waste of time (at least it would have been for me). They've had too many of them and it sounds as if the only thing to come out of this one was that Hilary Clinton changed her tune on Barack Obama's "electability" and that she apologized for the Bosnia misinformation/lie. George S. loves the Clintons so I don't see how ABC doesn't just put a little biased flag pin on him and to spend 45-52 minutes talking about the same thing that the media has dragged out for weeks is not at all beneficial to Democrats. It's a reminder of how long this has gone on.

The Dems needs to end this thing like yesterday.

Polls...they don't mean crap.

McCain is facing TWO Dems right now..and they is in the lead? Or close? Of course.

Wait until the Dems settle their cat fight and then the polls will be a better indicator.

There are too many hurt feelings and scratches on the Dem side right now for polls to really matter.

Wait til McCain and ...whomever do battle.

I can understand the thought process that results in believing that Barack Obama should work within the network to mend the rifts since it would benefit Hilary Clinton. What I don't understand and perhaps you can help me out with this is why the people who have been "damaged" (for lack of a better term) should fall into line because Barack Obama says they should? Sure he can pull out a party united against the Republicans speech but who is to say that some of those "damaged" people are seeing a difference between either party when it comes to feeling they've been snubbed.

The debate was probably a waste of time (at least it would have been for me). They've had too many of them and it sounds as if the only thing to come out of this one was that Hilary Clinton changed her tune on Barack Obama's "electability" and that she apologized for the Bosnia misinformation/lie. George S. loves the Clintons so I don't see how ABC doesn't just put a little biased flag pin on him and to spend 45-52 minutes talking about the same thing that the media has dragged out for weeks is not at all beneficial to Democrats. It's a reminder of how long this has gone on.

IA 100%.

McCain overtakes Obama , Clinton in the polls by attracting Dems!

I thought I read he was bringing back unhappy Republicans

After the debate last night, I'm pretty sure a deal's already been made for Barack & Hillary to run as the ticket. I've talked to a few other people who think the same thing.

After the debate last night, I'm pretty sure a deal's already been made for Barack & Hillary to run as the ticket. I've talked to a few other people who think the same thing.

It won't happen. I guarantee it. I see Obama is avoiding answering questions...what a surprise.

I thought I read he was bringing back unhappy Republicans

That too and whatever else the media wants to attribute to him.

I'm still interested in hearing from you why and how you think Obama can mend rifts?

After the debate last night, I'm pretty sure a deal's already been made for Barack & Hillary to run as the ticket. I've talked to a few other people who think the same thing.

Even though the Democrats appear to be kind of a muddled mess right now, I believe they're savvy enough to know better than placing them both on the same ticket.

The notion that the people that support one of the other will all be cool with them on the same ticket is just that.

There are people that are voting against him because he's black and there are people that are voting against her because she's a woman and if you have both of them on the same ticket then it makes it a whole lot easier for people those people to vote for John McCain . Ideally people should be looking at issues but realistically some people don't and that's life.

It won't happen. I guarantee it. I see Obama is avoiding answering questions...what a surprise.

I keep re-reading this knowing I should slap myself for even asking, but what questions is he avoiding? If you're referring to the debate then I didn't watch it and I guess I've missed out on the other instances where he's avoided answering as well.

After the debate last night, I'm pretty sure a deal's already been made for Barack & Hillary to run as the ticket. I've talked to a few other people who think the same thing.

That is what I thought as well

It won't happen. I guarantee it. I see Obama is avoiding answering questions...what a surprise.

It was not his best debate but he still has some great policies lined up for America that I appreciate...to me, he is not as specific in the debates on his ideas but he is very detailed on his website.

He will make a great president or VP

I'm still interested in hearing from you why and how you think Obama can mend rifts?

I think both of them (Hillary and Obama) are great at winning people over to their base and also quite persuasive as to why a united ticket with both of them is great for America and the Democrat party. What I see Obama doing is discussing to his African American base all of the great things Billary did for the black community and what she will continue to do for them as either VP or president. I am sure she has some great ideas on how to push forward civil rights for all minorities with the biggest focus being on the black community since they suffered the most oppression and, to this day, go through the biggest prejudice and racism from others (that is just how I see it)

The notion that the people that support one of the other will all be cool with them on the same ticket is just that.

It will be hard for either one to win if the other is not on as VP because a quarter of Obama supporters are going for McCain if he ain't on the ticket (or if he is the nominee) while a third of her supporters plan to vote for McCain if she is not either president or VP.