Members Roman Posted June 5, 2008 Members Share Posted June 5, 2008 It was a bad speech in a bad setting. He was trying to steal some thunder and got steamrolled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted June 5, 2008 Members Share Posted June 5, 2008 Maybe they should change the name of the show to Mourning Joe. On "The Daily Show" last night, Jon Stewart played a few clips of TV pundits dissing Barack Obama's chances vs. Hillary Clinton a year or so ago. One of them was Joe Scarborough, pooh-poohing Obama's chances. My search of the MSNBC site from that period uncovers more, from December 22, 2006. Say it ain't so, Joe! Here is one highlight. SCARBOROUGH: Even before the final votes were tallied in the 2006 elections, politicians started lining up for the 2008 presidential sweepstakes. Without further ado, let me kill Hamlet in the first act and tell you how your favorite candidate will fare over the next 12 months. Barack Obama Forget the fact this guy's middle name is "Hussein." Forget the fact he has been in national politics for less than two years. Forget the fact that Hillary Clinton will raise more money than God in 2007. Forget all of that, the Washington press tells us, because Barack Obama is none other than the second coming of JFK. Yeah, right. Barack Hussein Obama is more Johnny Bravo than John Kennedy. The vest fits and the fans scream while DC's star-maker machinery shifts into overdrive. Like Peter Brady's Bravo, Obama's shot at the top will be short lived. But since BHO is young enough, dynamic enough and (just) black enough to whip official Washington into a frenzy, expect this stupid story to stick around for a while. Soon enough though, this year's model will be shouting, "Please give a warm Chicago welcome to the next President of the United States, Hillary Clinton!" Then he went on to his Hillary assessment. Cheering for New York's junior senator excites Democratic activists about as much as rooting for General Electric. Regardless of their hand wringing, Hillary Inc. will grind up and spit out any Democratic challenger that gets in its way. Ms. Clinton has completed six ruthlessly efficient years in the U.S. Senate and avoided even a whiff of scandal since Bubba moved to a separate zip code. But that doesn't mean the problematic ex-president won't be her campaign's chief asset. Time and again throughout the next few years, Bill Clinton will make the difference on fundraising, networking and strategy. And 2007 will show that any politico who dares to cross Team Clinton risks being crushed into dust. Crushed into dust? Uh, not quite. From The Huffington Post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricaKane70 Posted June 5, 2008 Members Share Posted June 5, 2008 I find this part to be hilarious, it turns out BC was the poison to her campaign. HC would of been better off if he just stayed at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted June 5, 2008 Members Share Posted June 5, 2008 This is the reason that I see all the experts as being just like me with various opinions. Sometimes they guess wrong and sometimes they guess right. The same goes for all the experts on ESPN tv and radio. They can always pick the obvious when it comes to who will wind up in championship games and if some unexpected team gets in they have to scramble to get on board. What I look for is how interesting any of them are when they present their viewpoints. As far as Scarborough goes the Hussein fixation was stupid. He wasn't expressing any sentiment that the other experts hadn't in terms of anyone's chances against HC. She even said it would be over Feb. 5th. It just goes to show how much of an advantage Obama overcame and how right the people who saw something in him from the beginning. I believe Senator Durbin was the only senator to support Obama for president and remained alone for the longest time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jess Posted June 5, 2008 Members Share Posted June 5, 2008 As a Detroit Tiger fan, I can appreciate the ESPN analogy. Scarborough is a former Republican Congressman who never has been the brightest bulb. Now why a guy is considered an expert on national presidential elections because for a short while he was a congressional backbencher elected from one of the most Republican districts in Florida is beyond me. The cable networks line up all these people with no real credentials, place em side-by-side and let them argue, and then tell us we have learned from the experts. Most of the time all I learn is that they give me a headache and that those so-called experts have incredibly poor manners. It really has just become a contest about who can interrupt the other speaker the most often and who can come up with the cutest little quips. Either let the real journalists, speak objectively and intelligently about the campaign or stop calling this crap news. Consider these the opinions of a liberal who is tired of the so-called liberal media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted June 5, 2008 Members Share Posted June 5, 2008 If there was a bias, Pat Buchanan would have been shipped back along time ago. Sometimes he can barely hide his feelings and his bias. Then there is the Republican expert, Brad something. I can't think of his last name, but he is so partisan that you know what he's going to say before her says it. I have respect for true conservatives who can call out their party on their BS......or true liberals who can do the same thing. Jess, I see your point. Sometimes it not enough to have a certain type of person on a panel.... You have to have the right kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted June 5, 2008 Members Share Posted June 5, 2008 Wednesday on the Senate floor, Barack Obama pulled Joe Lieberman aside for a three minute conversation that, according to their body language (someone call BillO!), got pretty intense. Furthermore, during a Senate vote Wednesday, Obama dragged Lieberman by the hand to a far corner of the Senate chamber and engaged in what appeared to reporters in the gallery as an intense, three-minute conversation. While it was unclear what the two were discussing, the body language suggested that Obama was trying to convince Lieberman of something and his stance appeared slightly intimidating. Using forceful, but not angry, hand gestures, Obama literally backed up Lieberman against the wall, leaned in very close at times, and appeared to be trying to dominate the conversation, as the two talked over each other in a few instances. Still, Obama and Lieberman seemed to be trying to keep the back-and-forth congenial as they both patted each other on the back during and after the exchange. Afterwards, Obama smiled and pointed up at reporters peering over the edge of the press gallery for a better glimpse of their interaction. Well, when someone in your own party says stuff like this about you, they should expect a strong reaction. Good for you, Senator Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricaKane70 Posted June 6, 2008 Members Share Posted June 6, 2008 What did lieberman say about obama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Adam Posted June 6, 2008 Members Share Posted June 6, 2008 Is Lieberman the traitor? Obama gave a very good interview on CNN and basically told eve3ryone to just calm down about this VP nonsense. It sounds as if the decision will not be made in the near future. I like that attitude in him. So calm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted June 6, 2008 Members Share Posted June 6, 2008 Lieberman is mad because the Dems backed another candidate when his Senate seat was up, and he lost the Democratic Primary in his state. So......he went to being an Independent and kept his seat, and he votes Demcratic, even though he's helping JM with his POTUS run. Obama had given a speech and JL attacked him, while defending JM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Posted June 6, 2008 Members Share Posted June 6, 2008 Is there a video clip of this Roman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted June 6, 2008 Members Share Posted June 6, 2008 Haven't found one. Go to Crooks & Liars. I thought I saw the story that led up to this there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted June 6, 2008 Members Share Posted June 6, 2008 http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/20...-confronts.html The link to the talk is in the middle of the interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Posted June 6, 2008 Members Share Posted June 6, 2008 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...s-organization/ Lieberman launches grassroots organization Posted: 03:20 PM ET From CNN Associate Political Editor Rebecca Sinderbrand WASHINGTON (CNN) — Sen. Joe Lieberman – who has taken on increasingly high-profile campaign roles on behalf of presumptive Republican nominee John McCain – announced Thursday that was launching and heading a new grassroots organization, "Citizens for McCain," with a direct appeal to Hillary Clinton’s disappointed supporters. “The phones at the campaign headquarters have been ringing with disaffected Democrats calling to say they believe Senator McCain has the experience, judgment, and bipartisanship necessary to lead our country in these difficult times,” Lieberman wrote in a message sent to the Arizona senator’s supporters. “Many of these supporters are former supporters of Senator Clinton.” Over the past few weeks, some supporters of Hillary Clinton – whose campaign announced Wednesday that she would be suspending her presidential run this weekend — have said that they would consider voting for McCain if she were not the Democratic nominee. Lieberman highlighted McCain’s “very good working relationship with Senator Clinton” – which he said would continue in the future – and his comments praising her in a speech at a Louisiana campaign event Wednesday. "Senator Clinton has earned great respect for her tenacity and courage. The media often overlooked how compassionately she spoke to the concerns and dreams of millions of Americans, and she deserves a lot more appreciation than she sometimes received,” said McCain. “As the father of three daughters, I owe her a debt for inspiring millions of women to believe there is no opportunity in this great country beyond their reach. I am proud to call her my friend." He called on supporters to “reach out to Americans who are not currently involved in the campaign. “Will you help us by recruiting your friends, family, and co-workers who may not consider themselves members of the Republican Party and ask them to join the Citizens for McCain organization?” wrote Lieberman. “I am confident we will find many Democrats and Independents who, like John McCain and me, put country before political party and will support a leader with a real record of bipartisanship…. Together, we will make history.” On Wednesday — the first day of the general election campaign – the very first Republican conference call attacking presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama featured Lieberman. Lieberman, has been increasingly critical of Obama. The Democrat-turned-independent has been a strong supporter of President Bush's Middle East and Iraq policies. Obama endorsed Lieberman in his 2006 Democratic primary battle against challenger Ned Lamont. But after the Connecticut senator lost and decided to run as an independent, Obama switched his support to Lamont, who shared his opposition to the Iraq war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jess Posted June 6, 2008 Members Share Posted June 6, 2008 It would make my day if the Clinton supporters and Hillary herself told that little turncoat jackass to stuff it. He stayed Independent/Democrat to keep power in the Senate. If the Republicans had controlled the Senate the little snake would have been a Independent/Republican. I hope Clinton supporters realize that had she won and Obama lost, the little weasel would have been writing the same note to Obama's supporters. Yep I'm pissed. Liberman is a war-monger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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