Members Roman Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 The only rules she cares about are the ones that benifit her and the ones she can break. What is amazing is that she signed a letter banning both Mich. and Florida from the convention, and now that she needs their delegates, she fights to get them seated, and gets this arrogance about her that they should be......even though she agreed that they brook the rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 Now, trip off this. From CNN: WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Hillary Clinton supporter Harvey Weinstein threatened to cut off contributions to congressional Democrats unless House Speaker Nancy Pelosi embraced his plan to finance revotes in Florida and Michigan, three officials familiar with their conversation said. Sources say Harvey Weinstein threatened to cut contributions to congressional Democrats. Weinstein and Pelosi talked on the phone late last month, the sources said. The three officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk publicly about the conversation. They said Weinstein, a top supporter of Clinton's presidential campaign, appeared determined to buy Clinton more time in her battle against Sen. Barack Obama by pushing for the revote. He was also pressing Pelosi to back off her previous comments that superdelegates should support the candidate who's leading in pledged delegates in early June, the sources said. Weinstein, a co-founder of Miramax Films who now runs the Weinstein Company, called CNN Thursday to vehemently deny that he issued any threats. "Never, ever was the thought about denying funding to Democrats," he said. Weinstein said the phone call focused on his offer to put together a team of people to help finance a revote in Florida and Michigan. "I told her people felt there would be a disenfranchisement of voters" unless Democrats came up with a remedy, he said. Watch a report on the Pelosi-Weinstein conversation » Another person familiar with the phone call said what might have upset Pelosi is that Weinstein also suggested that if Democratic leaders "did not fix" the Florida and Michigan problem, powerful Democrats may abandon the eventual party nominee in favor of Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee, in November. But the three officials briefed on the call insisted Weinstein went further by suggesting that if Pelosi did not consider his proposal on the revote, he would help slow the flow of donations to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which works to elect House Democrats. "He was trying to get [Pelosi] to promise not to shut the race down," said one of the officials familiar with the call, which came before the primaries in Indiana and North Carolina. But Pelosi, who has repeatedly insisted she is neutral in the presidential showdown, refused to meet Weinstein's demands. "She said, 'Don't ever threaten me again,'" said a second official familiar with the heated conversation. Pelosi spokesman Nadeam Elshami would not characterize the phone call to CNN, saying only: "This was a private conversation, one of many the speaker has about the presidential campaign." The possibility of a revote in the delegate-rich states of Florida and Michigan is a critical issue because it may be Clinton's last chance to catch up to Obama in the delegate count. Currently, Obama has 1,845 pledged delegates to Clinton's 1,686. The tense confrontation between Pelosi and Weinstein is raising private concerns among some Democrats that tensions run so deep that it may be difficult to heal the party's wounds when the primary season is scheduled to end in early June. Pelosi's decision to refuse to sign on to Weinstein's proposal for revotes in Florida and Michigan -- which were stripped of their delegates by the Democratic National Committee for moving up their primary dates -- is likely to further irk Clinton allies who have charged that the speaker has been tilting her support to Obama. A superdelegate herself, Pelosi angered the Clinton camp in March by saying that superdelegates should back the candidate who leads in the pledged delegate count by early June. Clinton allies saw that as favoring Obama, who has been leading in the pledged delegate count. Pelosi has stressed she is only concerned it will be a problem for the Democratic party as a whole if superdelegates are perceived to have overturned the will of the people by backing a candidate who is behind in pledged delegates. In March, 20 Clinton fundraisers scolded the speaker in a letter for her remarks on the superdelegate issue, hinting they might hold back funds for the DCCC if Pelosi did not allay their concerns. Weinstein was not among the fundraisers who signed the letter. "We have been strong supporters of the DCCC," the fundraisers wrote to Pelosi. "We therefore urge you to clarify your position on superdelegates and reflect in your comments a more open view to the optional independent actions of each of the delegates at the National Convention in August." Pelosi did not back down then either, and Democratic party officials hardly seem scared by any of the threats. The DCCC reported more than $44 million in cash-on-hand recently, far outpacing its rival, the National Republican Congressional Committee. While Weinstein is a prolific fundraiser for favored candidates like Clinton, he has not given much money out of his own pocket to the DCCC. His only contribution to the DCCC was a mere $2,000 in 1993, according to Federal Election Commission records, though he has given tens of thousands of dollars in personal money to Senate Democrats over the last decade. The mogul has also raised tens of millions of dollars for Democratic candidates from other donors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 Yeah. She or her campaign supporters doesn't try to strong arm anyone. Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Southofnowhere Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 Let me get this straight? Clintons rich supporters want to pay for revotes? I wonder who would win? lol These peeps are really coming off as SLIMEBALLS! I'm glad that the speaker isn't backing down! She's 1 tough cookie! If Obama had lost both races but a pretty good margine Bigshots Dems would eb all over him to quit. Yet they're treating Clinton with kid gloves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jess Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 These tactics really irritate me. I am starting to like Nancy Pelosi more every day. The Clintons are just bullies and think they are entitled to the nomination and to the support of all public officials whether they actually win the primary or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 I also bet they didn't think this would get out. Damn I wish I were at home to see Keith's show tonight. Just to see if he brings this up. If he does, he will crucify her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jess Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 You know I really liked Bill Clinton as president. I thought he did a very very good job. I always thought he was without prejudice and I believe his presidency made a difference. I always like Hillary too. She has been such an icon for women. When I went to vote in the Democratic Primary, I honestly did not make up my mind until I was standing over the ballot. I voted for Obama because he is an optimist and really seems to want to do what is right for everybody. I also like that he seems so calm. I don't think he will be given to emotional decisions. Now, because of this campaign, I have a really bad taste in my mouth about the Clintons. I don't mind so much that she is not throwing in the towel. I think that is more wishful thinking on her part than anything. Anybody who has been associated with a campaign knows that you just don't accept that they are going to lose. What bother me is that it just seems she will violate any rule or do anything to win, even if it means cheating or hurting the party. Her supporters saying that they will toss Congress to the R's if they don't do what Hillary wants? That makes us as bad as the Republicans. I want Hillary to express outrage over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 Good Luck with that. She's using the media today to try and make him into the "bad guy" who is disenfranchising the voters in FL and MI. Your commitment to the voters of these states must be clearly stated and your support for a fair and quick resolution must be clearly demonstrated. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...a-on-delegates/ Some of the comments below the article are hilarious but there's one that really had me laughing. When she opens her mouth now I swear all I can hear is "Give me the White House. It's mine. It's mine." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 She has the nerve to talk about voting principals when she signed a deal saying their votes wouldn't count?! The damn nerve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/ Another SD goes to Obama, making her lead in SDs go down to 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wales2004 Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 Is Obama still in this thing? Hilary Clinton is now saying that WV is must win for Democrats in order to win the WH. Shockingly enough she's expected to win WV. Now not only is she the real leader of the white voters but she's apparently got an even greater range: Amid questions of whether she can still win the nomination, Clinton argued that she is beating Obama with the groups of people McCain will be targeting in the Fall – Catholics, Hispanics, blue-collar workers and senior citizens. Clinton also called McCain a "formidable" opponent. Why did she leave out the Protestants and the Jews, the young, the middle aged, Ronald McDonald, Jack in the Box, the Pillsbury Dough boy? She gets worse by the minute. I forgot to include the link: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...-for-democrats/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricaKane70 Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 I can't believe someone tried to strong arm Nancy Pelosi, she is not the type to give into to that type of thing. This is making the clintons look too pathetic, who are they gonna threaten next obsama bin laden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 You left out the lions, tigers and bears, and every person who was aboard both Death Stars before they exploded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roman Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 Oh, and just so we can end this Bulls**t about NC's racial make-up......you know, that the reason why Obama won the state was because all the black people voted: In 2007, the U.S. Census estimated that the racial makeup of North Carolina was as follows: 70% White American, 22.3% African-American, 1.2% American Indian, and the remaining 6.5% are Hispanic or Latino (of any race). Damn..........he must have performed the Vulcan Mind Meld on those 6 white people who voted for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EricaKane70 Posted May 8, 2008 Members Share Posted May 8, 2008 ITA. An I really wish people would stop saying he's winning because he is black, black people alone cannot make obama president only people of all races can do that in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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