Barack Obama Elected President!

[GoldenDogs]

Thanks for that, Roman. It's sad to see there are as many non-stories and non-issues pushed forth about Obama as they are now doing to Palin.

[JackPeyton]

wow. i am still undecided.

I did really like speach by SP.

[JackPeyton]

[Greg's GL]

Talk about being a hypocrite:

"I think we've got to make the case that I'm ready, that I put my country first and it's time to put aside our partisan rancor and differences and work together for the country, and that I can create jobs and restore our economy and keep our country safe," - John McCain

This coming from a man/campaign that was the first to lob negative ads (at least here in Florida). How can this man continue to talk out both sides of his mouth and no one questions him on this? The media, IMHO, have given McCain a pass for the most part in fear of the Repubs crying about the "unfair media".

As far as the vote percentage issue, this is done in every election. The Repubs rolled it out in 2000 in comparing Gore to Clinton. Now it's only fair the same is done in describing the similiarities between McCain and Bush.

[GoldenDogs]

Wow, Jack... that was an interesting post. Lots of points there I hadn't yet thought about. The issues regarding Obama's experience versus Palin's experience, in addition to some of the lines in Palin's speech last night, do make me think about the type of work a governor does versus a state senator.

That kind of hit me this past weekend as I watched coverage of Hurricane Gustav blowing into Louisiana and press conferences held by Governor Bobby Jindal. He basically coordinated his state's efforts to evacuate, secure, and manage resources in areas affected by the hurricane. While obviously an extreme case, it certainly does highlight the type of executive role a governor plays -- they run the business of their state. I think that's a pretty weighty job. Being mayor of a small town isn't nearly as weighty... but she did it for 8 years. So technically she has been in politics at the local and state level since 1996, and for most of those 12 years, she HAS been the executive in charge of something. All of that obviously includes managing personnel, budgets, public policy, dealing with governing bodies, etc.

I'm not arguing that she is ready to be President of the United States, of course, and she hasn't been nominated to assume that role. But, by my estimation, Barack's comparative experience managing the affairs of the people does seem to be far less than Palin's. It is true that he has not managed personnel or balanced a budget. Now, as a state senator, he obviously has legislative experience -- but is it true that he has not authored a single piece of legislation? I can't seem to find anything to indicate that he has. He has "sponsored" over 130 bills or "cosponsored" more than 600, but only about half a dozen have actually passed. It seems many of those were what are termed as "vanity bills".

So, while I definitely question Palin's qualifications to be Chief Executive, I also realize she isn't running for that office. Obama is, however. And the research I have come up with so far indicates that he truly does have less executive experience than Palin. As for Biden and McCain... they don't need executive experience because they've been in Washington seemingly forever and know all three branches of government like the back of their hands. Biden and McCain are qualified to run the country. In fact, I would argue that it is Biden that should be the Democratic Presidential nominee with Obama as his Vice-Presidential running mate. In my mind, that would actually make for a strong Democratic ticket where "experience" matters. It would be a fair, even race then...

[bandbfan]

Everybody talks about how nobody gives specifics. But I remember so many people complaining about Gore because he ke couldn't shut up about issues.

[bandbfan]

She left her 9,000 residents with a $20 million dollar debt.

[Wales2004]

[Sylph]

OK, totally off-topic: who dresses Michelle Obama and Cindy McCain?

[Wales2004]

As far as I know, Michelle Obama gets her clothes off the rack.....which stores I don't know. I haven't heard anything about Cindy McCain except that she spends a nice chunk of change every month but it's her money so other than to point out that she can't relate to the average person income wise. there doesn't seem to be much of a point to that being mentioned in the media.

[GoldenDogs]

Does this somehow discount the rest of the analysis concerning her level of executive experience versus Obama's?

She has also racked up a budget surplus for the state of Alaska as a whole. Big deal. I'm discussing work experience, not job performance evaluations. But if you want to compare achievements... Let me do more research and I'll see what I come up with.

[Wales2004]

Thank you...this is the kind of qualitative experience I mean. People can dress up their resumes but the performance is what matters most.

It bothers me when Republicans want to point out problems with the Democrats but don't want to acknowledge the lies and half truths of their own party as if it's okay for them to lie too.

My first television introduction to the Clintons was them telling a lie about an affair. My first television introduction to Palin was her telling a lie about positions she's taken in the course of her job. Both created a bad first impression.

[Wales2004]

Until the Republican party is overhauled they have no business portraying themselves as the party of Lincoln since they are worlds apart. They really have no business showing video of Rosa Parks and knocking community organizers since that is how the civil rights movement was born.

[Roman]

Thanks for posting that AP article.

I saw Cindy once again say that she has foriegn policy experience becasue of where Alaska sits geographically to Russia. I just laugh every time I hear someone say this........one because this is the best they can come up with, and two they are repeating the same line Steve Doocy of Fixed News used earlier this week.

They showed a video of Rosa Parks?

She was probably the only black person in the building!

I kid, I kid.

[Sylph]

Thank you, Wales2004!