So Pratt begins work on my 29th b-day, eh? This will be either the best birthday present ever (albeit, belated); or it'll have me wishing I had gotten a pony instead.

Thanks, Y&RWorldTurner!

So I guess Nelson Branco of TVguide Canada has some ATWT writers news scoop, but is not releasing it yet.

Hopefully it will be interesting.

Edited June 16, 200817 yr by winterguy125

I for one don't like Sally Sussman Morina. During her last Y&R stint she really mingled some crazy stuff - don't know whether the poisoned necklace was hers (although I *think* it was her idea) - qualifying her right back for DAYS.

I always wondered how closely she was trained under Bill Bell though. In the 80s she served double duties, being on the show's writing team and also being it's first ever story consultant... Seems Bill Bell thought highly of her but for some reason never asked her back later after she quit for Generations/DAYS et al.

Although we differ on Sally Sussman Morina (who I love!) I do have a theory about her role at Y&R in the 80s and her return shortly before LML's wave of destruction. I am willing to bet that perhaps she wasn't really a Bell hire but more a Sony/Columbia Tri Star hire...sort of like the Sony representative in the writing team. That's what I think happened in 2005(? can't remember the year), Sony sent in Sally Sussman Morina to consult. The difference between Sally Sussman Morina and LML is that she appeared to give a sh*t about what Y&R was about, just like she gave a sh*t about DAYS.

I might be right, I have no evidence proving my theory either way. She might have been a Bill Bell pick and he simply didn't hire her back after 'Generations' because he found other talent or she wasn't interested or had other opportunities.

The difference between Sally Sussman Morina and LML is that she appeared to give a sh*t about what Y&R was about, just like she gave a sh*t about DAYS.

That's why the LML scheme would've never worked out for Y&R - Lynn Latham hated the show and thus destroyed it. It's very simple, actually, Freud and the subconscious.

That's why the LML scheme would've never worked out for Y&R - Lynn Latham hated the show and thus destroyed it. It's very simple, actually, Freud and the subconscious.

thats so far over my head i had to google it and got no answers.

thats so far over my head i had to google it and got no answers.

If you hate something and try to deny it, to repress it (into your subconscious), no matter how hard you try, the hate will still be sensible in what you do. Basically.

Although we differ on Sally Sussman Morina (who I love!) I do have a theory about her role at Y&R in the 80s and her return shortly before LML's wave of destruction. I am willing to bet that perhaps she wasn't really a Bell hire but more a Sony/Columbia Tri Star hire...sort of like the Sony representative in the writing team. That's what I think happened in 2005(? can't remember the year), Sony sent in Sally Sussman Morina to consult. The difference between Sally Sussman Morina and LML is that she appeared to give a sh*t about what Y&R was about, just like she gave a sh*t about DAYS.

I might be right, I have no evidence proving my theory either way. She might have been a Bill Bell pick and he simply didn't hire her back after 'Generations' because he found other talent or she wasn't interested or had other opportunities.

I'm sorry, but Sally Sussman Morina sucks ass as a writer. She's horribly inconsistent, choppy, and sometimes one has to suspend a good amount of disbelief to watch her stuff. Generations, as much as its applauded for its use of African American characters, wasn't a strong show overall and it was Sally who was the driving force behind all of that. While I would agree that she is better fit for Y&R than Latham, I'm not particularly fond of her writing and I don't think she could've "saved" Y&R.

Her DAYS stint was laughable as well, talk about a cheap attempt to being sci-fi elements to daytime.

The only way I'd only want her back at Y&R is as a script or even breakdown writer, not as head writer.

As mentioned though, Bill Bell did trust her as a consultant (though I don't know why). James E. Reilly (at B& and Frederick Johnson were also consultants for Bill Bell, and the only one I'd want back is Frederick Johnson.

Edited June 17, 200817 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

While I would agree that she is better fir for Y&R than Latham, I'm not particularly fond of her writing and I don't think she could've "saved" Y&R.

Because she couldn't have saved it. Sally Sussman is not the answer.

She might have been a Bill Bell pick and he simply didn't hire her back after 'Generations' because he found other talent or she wasn't interested or had other opportunities.

What I heard (from a highly reliable source) was that Bill Bell was finished with Sally Sussman after she "left him" to launch "Generations". Believe it or not, he was actually threatened, terrified her show would eclipse his (was "Generations" on opposite Y&R?) Apparently, Bill was an odd duck-- if he fired you, it didn't mean you couldn't return someday (Trent Jones), but if you left to work on another show, you were dead to him. Which would explain why Sally wasn't hired back during Bill's lifetime, I guess.

Believe it or not, he was actually threatened, terrified her show would eclipse his (was "Generations" on opposite Y&R?)

Why is it that I don't believe this?

if he fired you, it didn't mean you couldn't return someday (Trent Jones)

Trent wrote for Y&R consecutively from 1993 to 2003, so Bill never fired Trent, at least he was no longer HW of the show when Trent left the first time.

but if you left to work on another show, you were dead to him.

Bill preferred to train writers, instead of picking up writers who went from show to show. Though, Trent Jones was an exception. There are a few others of course.

Why is it that I don't believe this?

I don't either. NBC barely supported Generations, and by the time the show aired, Y&R had already been the #1 soap on the air and Generations was at the bottom of the pack.

I don't think Bill Bell was intimidated by SSM...but I could see the fact that she left him leading her to be 'dead to him'...Bill Bell was the alpha dog at Y&R, do something to upset him and you were over (just ask Brenda Dickson! She came to work only to discover Jess Walton sitting in the makeup chair, Bill Bell said something akin to "Brenda! Meet the new Jill, you're fired")

SSM is one of those writers you either love or hate. I happened to love her stint at DAYS (her first year, the second year was allllll Langan and it was horrible).

Why is it that I don't believe this?

Okay, Sylph - I give up. Who replaced Brad in your avatar?

Okay, Sylph - I give up. Who replaced Brad in your avatar?

John Yorke.