Passions would never work on USA, LOL! Though USA was producing Law & Order: Criminal Intent on its own for a while this season, something like Passions is totaly out of their daytime programming preferences. USA gets higher ratings out of running reruns of shows like Law & Order: SVU in the daytime than it ever would with original programing.

What the numbers for the reruns?

If USA can air Wrestling, they can air Passions. Have you seen some of the storylines on WWE Raw? Some are even crazier than Passions! LOL

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Anyway, there's a lot riding on PSNS' ability to exist on cable or some other alternative. If PSNS was to find a home on a cable channel or other outlet, it would be the model that other soaps look to follow. If PSNS were higher rated, I'm sure it would have more of a "stake" as to whether or not it can succeed.

The execs will use this as a way to see if soaps can succeed. The fact is, if ABC soaps were to go off the air tomorrow, they have an outlet on SOAPnet. They could easily put their soaps from 1-3, an anchor the primetime re-runs after it. Would the shows probably have to go through some budget cuts? I'm sure they would, but they have an option.

It is important for PSNS to succeed, not only for it's future, but for the future of the other soaps as well.

I COULD NOT AGREE MORE!

But Passions is "soap". It's over the top, it's campy, it's tongue in cheek. Do I think they have gone completely overboard at times? Yes I have. PSNS has tried to be groundbreaking, and in a way they have. They just tend to drive into the ground.

At this point, my want for PSNS to succeed is more than just the future of the show, or my like or dislike of it.

Ryan, I love you, but I have never disagreed with you more.

Soaps are supposed to be an escape from reality, yes. Romance, adventure, murder, betrayal, catfights. The ideal fantasies come to life of people who watch from home, anxious to get away from their humdrum lives.

But how can a "intersexed" incest storyline and the literal gates of Hell opening up be put in the same class as OLTL's Viki battling multiple personalities or DAYS' Marlena losing her son to SIDS? How can a centuries old witch hold a candle to Karen Wolek's heartbreaking testimony on the stand?

Passions is an amateurish fiasco being guided by a man who so has a disdain for daytime that he would do anything to discredit a genre that, before his wretched claws dragged him into the fray, flourished for decades while striking an emotional cord in millions of people on a daily basis.

He has succeeded in bringing his twisted fantasies and desires to the screen, and in making the world of soap operas yet another punchline for people on the sidelines.

The day JERk, and Passions, leave daytime is the day that the world can breathe a collective sigh of relief.

What the numbers for the reruns?

If USA can air Wrestling, they can air Passions. Have you seen some of the storylines on WWE Raw? Some are even crazier than Passions! LOL

Wrestling > Passions.

sorry. but its true.

and WWE is a pretty high rated program for USA

I personally thought SUNSET BEACH was always better at being over the top and campy, without going overboard(turkey baster insemination being a small exception).

Gary Tomlin and his crew at the BEACH were waaay better, although I admit, PASSIONS has had some pretty interesting moments.(Yeah, I have "Love Is Ecstacy" on my iPod. Don't judge me! Too harshly!)

I love you. I agree with you 100%

Relief from what? You're already not watching the show.

It's not like Passions holds some voodoo powers over the other shows and once its cancelled, those soaps will all of a sudden get better.

Wrestling averages about 5 million viewers a week for USA. It's their highest rated show on the network and is the top when it comes to weekly ratings for cable (though ESPN kicked their ass last week).

The good "soap" stories for wrestling ended the moment Stephanie McMahon and Brian Gerwitz (a reject soap writer) took over the creative team. But I agree, they tend to do more crazy things than Passions. They did a skit a few weeks ago when Mr. McMahon's "son" (who's a leprechaun who used to be called Little Bastard, now called Hornswaggle), painted a black hole into a wall, and "lept through it" to escape being chased by a bigger bully. Mr. McMahon blew himself up in a limo a few months ago.

But Passions is "soap". It's over the top, it's campy, it's tongue in cheek. Do I think they have gone completely overboard at times? Yes I have. PSNS has tried to be groundbreaking, and in a way they have. They just tend to drive into the ground.

At this point, my want for PSNS to succeed is more than just the future of the show, or my like or dislike of it.

Maybe structurally, but it is so insulting to viewer intelligence, full of psycopathic flood of narrative, sick and sickening, amazingly dull and disgusting, it is unbelievable that a human can write all that jazz, pardon cr*p. It's just not funny any more (not that it has ever been funny to me).

(Yeah, I have "Love Is Ecstacy" on my iPod. Don't judge me! Too harshly!)

I'm gonna put you in my appointment book for some time next week for a private session to talk about that.

I know that reruns of SVU and CI regularly draw in the 2.0's for USA. Later reruns of those shows typically draw 1.5's, which is good for cable shows that air like 11 PM.

USA typically airs movies in the daytime as well, which is why I don't see them adding any original programing to their already strong daytime lineup.

Ryan, I love you, but I have never disagreed with you more.

Soaps are supposed to be an escape from reality, yes. Romance, adventure, murder, betrayal, catfights. The ideal fantasies come to life of people who watch from home, anxious to get away from their humdrum lives.

But how can a "intersexed" incest storyline and the literal gates of Hell opening up be put in the same class as OLTL's Viki battling multiple personalities or DAYS' Marlena losing her son to SIDS? How can a centuries old witch hold a candle to Karen Wolek's heartbreaking testimony on the stand?

Passions is an amateurish fiasco being guided by a man who so has a disdain for daytime that he would do anything to discredit a genre that, before his wretched claws dragged him into the fray, flourished for decades while striking an emotional cord in millions of people on a daily basis.

He has succeeded in bringing his twisted fantasies and desires to the screen, and in making the world of soap operas yet another punchline for people on the sidelines.

The day JERk, and Passions, leave daytime is the day that the world can breathe a collective sigh of relief.

Congratulations! You have just earned a magna cum laude degree from SON University. Go, Shawn!

Maybe structurally, but it is so insulting to viewer intelligence, full of psycopathic flood of narrative, sick and sickening, amazingly dull and disgusting, it is unbelievable that a human can write all that jazz, pardon cr*p. It's just not funny any more (not that it has ever been funny to me).

I don't disagree with you at all. But many soaps are insulting to viewer intelligence (come on...the unabortion on AMC? Who just happens to be a jack of all trades?). GH can be just as bad as PSNS (especially with what seems to be an anti-woman agenda). But it's not like the other soaps are so great that PSNS is an embarrassment.

Shawn...

I'd love for soaps to tell stories like they did back in the day. What I wouldn't give for a great HIV pregnancy story on GH, or a wonderful post-partum depression story on AMC. But that won't happen any time soon. To hold PSNS to this standard that the other soaps haven't met in YEARS is a little unfair.

Yes they've told horrible disgusting stories, but which soap hasn't? The fact of the matter is, there people who enjoy PSNS for what it is. And when they tried to get into more "realistic" stories, they weren't happy. Reilly is a hot mess, but he knows what his audience (a majority of them) what to see.

Soaps are supposed to be an escape from reality, yes. Romance, adventure, murder, betrayal, catfights. The ideal fantasies come to life of people who watch from home, anxious to get away from their humdrum lives.

by those standers name ONE current daytime soap opera.

love it, hate it, love to hate it, hate to love it, whatever ur feelings are on pssns, it IS a daytime soap opera. It IS full of classic soap stories with soapy twists and soapy turn's. i myself hate passions, but it IS a soap opera. and sadly, it IS better than most current daytime soaps.

and as far as SB, SuBe, & SG go... Santa barbara is the most overrated soap ever, IMHO. Granted, all three soaps failed, but SuBe was pure soapy camp with a heart. NBC shoulda kept sube over pss. and Spyder Games was just amazing, bad sets, not so great acting, and all.

as far was WWE goes, it's storylines went down hill after the attitude era ended. with the end of dx, stonecold & the rock being way over played and VM becoming larger than life... it just had nowhere to go. But hey, i guess it still works. It does well for USA. I mean, they wanted it back bad enough that they somehow pulled off WWE getting specials on NBC. im not 100% proof sure but i belive when WWE went to Spike TV (then TNN) USA's overall ratings dropped.

as for another home for passions... it wouldnt work on scifi, IMHO. they tried reruns and for whatever reason they didnt do well. honestly, the reason i think it doesnt work on scifi is it too campy and over the top and obvious about it, kinda like a slap in the face to scifi fans.

Maybe structurally, but it is so insulting to viewer intelligence, full of psycopathic flood of narrative, sick and sickening, amazingly dull and disgusting, it is unbelievable that a human can write all that jazz, pardon cr*p. It's just not funny any more (not that it has ever been funny to me).

Insulting to viewer intelligence? Do you watch other soaps too? Hello!! LOL

Maybe structurally, but it is so insulting to viewer intelligence, full of psycopathic flood of narrative, sick and sickening, amazingly dull and disgusting, it is unbelievable that a human can write all that jazz, pardon cr*p. It's just not funny any more (not that it has ever been funny to me).

and other soaps are not? hello All My Zendulls, As The Babys Turn, The Dull & The Borring.

Passions does one thing no other soaps do - it stays true to itself.