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I thought he was very cute too, and a likeable presence even though on paper Cliff was a prick. I wonder if he was well-liked by viewers or someone at the show as there's a point in these episodes where he could have been written out and was not. -
By EricMontreal22 · Posted
I'm not a Derek fan at all (and not even all that much of an Ashley fan, but man has she become awful in their relationship--like she's not even trying. But also I admit, I don't think I'd ever live with someone, even someone I was married to (I know they're not married) in a bachelor apartment unless I had to. Even just a one bedroom would make a big difference. I'd probably end up hiding in the bathroom a lotPlease register in order to view this content
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Going back to this, I'm even more confused why Amanda would say that only a year later (lazy writers), because I'm watching April 29, 1996 right now and literally all of the current on-air Spauldings (Alan, Alex, Amanda, A-M) and Coopers (Buzz, Lucy, Frank, Eleni) are on a plane together for Lucy/A-M's wedding. Along with Reva (which right now makes sense because she's married to Buzz), Dahlia (so out of place, but by default because they can't let a high school kid they just took in stay home alone), and a very random Rick (he's barely had any interaction with any of these characters all year haha). It's like a madhouse on that plane, which is pretty comical because most of them don't get along... but they very much know each other. Still miffed that Bridget is totally forgotten here. And David. And Nick/Susan! Couldn't they have waited to fire them until after this wedding? It was only like 2 months later. They had to make Alan be A-M's best man (which is wild to me) bc A-M doesn't even have any real friends on the show right now. -
You're right and I do imagine many longtime viewers were put off. I suppose the show felt many of the longtime fans were gone, so in that sense I get it if the show had continued. They should have taken greater care with the generation below Patti. It's hard to remember she was meant to be mother to Sarah. I wonder if that is one of the reasons they killed Sarah before Patti arrived. Or were those different teams?
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1986/87 wrapped up during the weeks of May 4-10, 1987; May 11-17, 1987; and May 18-24, 1987. Here's what happened on the season's Top 10 scripted shows and the four primetime soaps those weeks. Cheers - I Do and Adieu (season 5 finale, May 7, rating 28.4, #1): Sam and Diane's wedding is coming up. Diane, who has always wanted to be a writer, is offered to have one of her novels published. The question is whether Diane can combine her work with marriage. Family Ties - The Visit (season 5 finale, May 7, rating 27.8, 2nd): Elyse's sister Michelle, her obnoxious husband, and their bratty children come for a visit, and despite Steven's attempts to tolerate their presence, it eventually becomes too much. The Cosby Show - Hillman (season 3 finale, May 7, rating 26.4, 3rd): The Huxtables visit Hillman College to celebrate the retirement of the school's president. Moonlighting - To Heiress Human (season 3 finale, May 5, rating 21.0, 4th): Maddie tries to ignore the fact that she and David slept together the night before as they tackle a new case - a woman wants proof that her fiancé loves her and not her father's money. Murder, She Wrote - Murder, She Spoke (season 3 finale, May 10, rating 20.4, 5th): A murder occurs while Jessica is recording one of her novels for the Mystery Books for the Blind series. The Golden Girls - A Piece of Cake (May 9, rating 19.2, 8th): Through a series of flashbacks, the housemates reminisce about their past birthday celebrations. Growing Pains - The Long Goodbye (May 5, rating 18.8, 9th): Maggie believes that the Seavers' handyman is getting too old and tries to convince Jason to let him go. Then they find out that somebody else was behind the mistakes. Dallas - Two-Fifty (May 8, rating 18.3, 11th): J.R. must defend himself and Ewing Oil against Justice Department charges. Wendell obtains Mrs. Scottfield's cooperation. Pam warns Cliff. Dynasty - Shadow Play (season 7 finale, May 6, rating 17.6, 14th): An emotional Alexis accidentally drives her car off a bridge. Following Adam and Dana's wedding, the entire Carrington family is held hostage at the mansion by a face from the past: Matthew Blaisdel. Falcon Crest - Chain Reaction (May 8, rating 16.5, 17th): Kit defends Tony, to no avail. Chase and Maggie decide on a quick divorce. Knots Landing - Do Not Fold, Spindle, or Mutilate (May 7, rating 16.3, 20th): Paige tries to find out if Greg is her father. Peter suffers the wrath of several women. Night Court - Her Honor (Part 2) (season 4 finale, May 6, rating 15.2, 27th): While the newly appointed Christine begins her duties, Harry plans a colossal stunt, not realizing that Christine is working to get him reappointed. Who's the Boss? was a repeat on May 5. Dallas - Fall of the House of Ewing (season 10 finale, May 15): Bobby and Pam's dreams of a serene and happy future are shattered. The impending loss of Ewing Oil has a desperate J.R. fighting for his life. Knots Landing - Cement the Relationship (season 8 finale, May 14): Abby covers up for Olivia and disposes of Peter's body. Val is convinced Ben won't return. Falcon Crest - Desperation (season 6 finale, May 15): Melissa takes dangerous measures to keep the baby. Angela learns one of her children, who supposedly died during birth, is alive. Who's the Boss? - Mona (May 12): Mona goes to visit her brother who bought an old hotel using her money, and discovers that the place is a money pit. The Golden Girls - Empty Nests (season 2 finale, May 16): The women try to help a neighborhood couple patch up their faltering marriage. Growing Pains was a repeat on May 12. Growing Pains - Confidentially Yours (season 2 finale, May 19, rating 20.4, 4th): Maggie gets a job offer – from a womanizer who only wants to sleep with her. Who's the Boss? - A Moving Episode (season 3 finale, May 19, rating 19.2, 6th): When Mona moves to New York, Tony takes over her apartment. While trying to convince his friends from the old neighborhood and himself that he's still the wild man he once was, Tony discovers that he's happier in his domestic role with Angela and the kids. The final ratings for 1986/87 were 1. The Cosby Show, 2. Family Ties, 3. Cheers; 4. Murder, She Wrote; 5. The Golden Girls, 7. Night Court, 8. Growing Pains, 9. Moonlighting, 10. Who's the Boss?, 11. Dallas, 23. Falcon Crest, 24. Dynasty, 26. Knots Landing. -
Joel Crothers has finally appeared in this batch of episodes. I first saw him this week on Dark Shadows and that must have summoned him on Edge of Night. Miles and Nicole are back in the swing of things although they have not had much to do. I still don't like Draper although April is a bit of a loon at the moment with wanting to adopt Raven and Logan's baby. She also slapped Draper and there was no mention of it later on unless there will be. Ann Williams is such a good actress that I'm on Margo's side even when I should not be. Eliot is such a creep but he's an enjoyable one. Cliff is such a pest to Deborah although I do like the actor. He's actually attractive so I wish they would stop writing him as such an HR nightmare. I know I shouldn't, but I like the scenes with Cliff and Deborah. They have more chemistry than Deborah and Owen. The actor playing Owen is fine, but he does not have anything with Frances Fisher. Fisher is another great presence on the show. The movie has not gotten far yet. Paige and Brian have been absent for a while. Margo has now been drawn into the movie plot and Nola is more concerned with exposing Owen and Deborah. Farley Granger has been MIA but I'm assuming he returns. Logan and Geraldine had a fantastic scene about what to do about the baby. Lois Kibbee is such a treasure. Still enjoying the show. -
Understand. But actually Patti should have been a generation older than Liza. Patti and Janet Bergman (Liza's mother) had been contemporaries a decade earlier. So when they cast Jacqueline Schultz as Patti, most long-term fans felt it did not ring true. Sometimes de-aging a character by a few years is successful on soap operas. But to de-age a character by an entire generation was silly and stretched believability a bit too far. -
Thanks. I'm glad they didn't give her a love interest at that time as it would have felt false after Ryder's horrible death. I can definitely see how Patti would have replaced Liza. Still not sure why they decided to kill off Suzi.
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By Contessa Donatella · Posted
https://www.instagram.com/p/DJsnyRMJkiO/ 1997 Daytime Emmys Opening New York, on NBC primetime with hosts Susan Lucci & Regis Philbin -
@Paul Raven thank you. I knew you would have the skinny on sets. So probably more to come.Please register in order to view this content
As for recast Ted, I saw him briefly because it's been a busy day, but what little I saw of him...I didn't dislike him as much as I thought I would. Keith felt like Maurice's Ted in a lot of mannerisms and way he had with some things/words. Definitely a different presence from Maurice's Ted, but I still feel like Keith WAS Ted. If that makes sense. Maruice's Ted definitely had a different charisma to him. From the brief scene I saw. Will probably watch later when I get more time. Sounds like it was a great episode from the parts I've glanced on here earlier. Speak on it.
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