Members Chris B Posted November 16, 2007 Members Share Posted November 16, 2007 bellcurve, what is the big deal with outing soap scabs? Would you rather soaps stop production for 5+ months, then returning post strike with no production and ratings cut in half (or more)? If soaps stop production, they will be replaced. We may get some reruns of the last aired episodes when the strike ends, but I wouldn't count on regular repeats. In general I can see how scabs are bad, but the situation with soaps is completely different. Desperate Housewives and other primetime shows don't need scabs. Their viewers are used to breaks and when these shows return they'll have endless promo. We keep hearing how the networks want to drop their soaps, taking them off the air would make it very easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ljacks13 Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 What I don't understand is don't the studios/producers care about ending this strike? There hasn't even been inkling of new talks to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 Scabs are scabs, they suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Im-n-a-whirl Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 Variety just announced that the writers have agreed to resume talks on November 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wendy Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 As has Deadline Hollywood Daily: http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RuAsRuAnAu Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 QUOTE (Chris B @ Nov 16 2007, 06:34 PM) Hopefully in Monday's Suds Report they get some scoop about LML. THe writer hates her, so I'm sure he'll be on the story. What does that writer think of all of daytime's Head Writers & Executive Producers? Is he/she going after them? If they aren't, why not? Does he/she feel ATWT and GL are hopeless causes? What about OLTL & AMC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeoAngelicLiz Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 I hope its okay that I cut and paste this... Anyways looks like they got tired of protesting... LOS ANGELES (AP) - Hollywood film and TV writers who've been on strike nearly two weeks will return to contract negotiations on Nov. 26, their union and producers said Friday. In a joint statement, the Writers Guild of America, West, and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers said both sides had agreed to return to formal negotiations. The statement said no other details would be released. The writers went on strike Nov. 5. At the core of the contract dispute is compensation for shows offered on the Internet - a medium that appeals to a number of tech-savvy, young assistants who aspire to create their own online programming and want a piece of the profits. The producers group has said it's offering writers a share of licensing fees paid by Web sites to stream shows. However, the union rejected the offer, saying the payments wouldn't begin until six weeks after a show goes online and viewer interest is nearly exhausted. Writers also want a cut of revenue from non-skippable ads contained in many shows streamed free online. The alliance slammed the door on that demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 Isn't it enough for your elephantine ego that you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bellcurve Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 QUOTE (Chris B @ Nov 16 2007, 05:58 PM) bellcurve, what is the big deal with outing soap scabs? Would you rather soaps stop production for 5+ months, then returning post strike with no production and ratings cut in half (or more)? If soaps stop production, they will be replaced. We may get some reruns of the last aired episodes when the strike ends, but I wouldn't count on regular repeats. I want scabs outed because I don't think it's fair for them to write at the expense of their peers who are fighting for what they believe is right. The last thing I would want to see is a repeat of what happened when AW went on strike...that show was rumored to have replaced it's HW with an Ad Exec. Thank goodness Donna Swajeski ended up working out for AW. And regardless of how good a job they would do, would it be fair for Josh Griffith and Gary Tomlin to keep their WGA memberships and keep their jobs as HW post-strike, at the expense of their hardworking peers who they knowingly took jobs from? I understand the need to save daytime TV, I really, really do. And I'm not suggesting the soaps *have* to go dark. But I don't think people who cross the picket like should be allowed to work as writers or call themselves WGA members. So would shitty scab writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChangedBYSon Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 Can everyone say some prayers that these new talk negotiations work out? If people let their bickering, egos and evil cynicism rule the day we're going to have nothing but a bunch of cancelled shows very soon. The networks can't wait to get rid of these damned soaps---they've been wanting to for a decade. Daytime was already dying WITHOUT A STRIKE! Can we ban together and wish the writers luck in getting a fair and decent contract next week? They're not even asking for much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members exwriter Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 The writers did not get tired of protesting. They have been asking the AMPTP to come back to the table since the strike started. What happened is.... they gave in. They initially wanted the strike to be suspended and the writers to go back to work or they wouldn't negotiate. Yeah, right. The WGA will remain strong and on the picket lines until there is a deal, talks or no talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members exwriter Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 Thank you. And you are right, daytime was already dying. If you ask me, the same selfish, self-centered greedy pigs who couldn't wait even a week to take jobs from other writers are the reason soaps will not survive. And trust me, if the networks want the show off the air, it'll be off the air. That's a no-brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr. Jay S.W. Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 Ron Carlivati, head writer of One Life to Live, echoed the sentiment. “If you could say there’s a good thing [about the strike], it’s seeing your fellow writers. Because it’s so hard and so depressing, to see somebody else’s face that’s in the same boat as you lifts your spirits.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 ya know.. RC is kinda hot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B Posted November 17, 2007 Members Share Posted November 17, 2007 Strike update: Despite published reports, none of the eight network soaps will stop production as a result of the writers' strike. New episodes will continue to tape each day, written by the producers, former soap writers filling in and a few writers crossing the picket line. However, those crossing writers are not from "The Young and the Restless." "We were incensed to read the incorrect information printed in Variety, that several writers on our show sought financial core status" - essentially, opting out of the union - reads a statement issued this week from the "Y&R" writing team. "Our entire writing staff of 18 is united, and we fully support our union." http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/t...aute_water.html Lots of spoilers at link, so don't click if you don't wanna know. It's an article about B&B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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