This Irina woman is disgusting. I hope she doesnt stay on long. Im not big on Jax, but having him beat up, holding a gun to his head and threatening to kill his family, while tying him up and forcing him to have sex is sick. What is up with ABCD? They had Margeret rape Todd on OLTL 2 years ago. Irina better not become pregnant from this and have this be an obstacle between her and Jax. I hate this storyline and where its been going

I was shocked when I tuned into GH and caught this. Really disgusting.

Having a male be raped isn't a problem for me. We've had a lot of violence towards woman in daytime after all. I just don't like the fact that they are blurring the lines here. It reminds me of the Ridge/Brooke rape on B&B and Sammi/EJ on Days. Either make it a rape and be clear about that and call it that or make it consensual. Don't put a gun to someone's head or threaten the lives of a family member and call it anything other than rape. That's just offensive.

Male rape is such a BAD idea for soaps, because in order to explain it, you have to get very technical. If this is based on traditional male/female sex, doesn't the guy have to be aroused first? How does the woman get what she wants if he's too repulsed to be turned on? At least Julia on ATWT gave Jack enough viagra to stiffen King Kong.

She could sodomize him.

Male rape is such a BAD idea for soaps, because in order to explain it, you have to get very technical. If this is based on traditional male/female sex, doesn't the guy have to be aroused first? How does the woman get what she wants if he's too repulsed to be turned on? At least Julia on ATWT gave Jack enough viagra to stiffen King Kong.

I suppose a lot of people will think that way, but I like to think that people are smart enough to know that just because your body is aroused doesn't mean you are giving consent.

Didn't look like rape to me.

this is sicking poor jax

GH has been a sick twisted mess for way too long now.

Male rape is such a BAD idea for soaps, because in order to explain it, you have to get very technical. If this is based on traditional male/female sex, doesn't the guy have to be aroused first? How does the woman get what she wants if he's too repulsed to be turned on? At least Julia on ATWT gave Jack enough viagra to stiffen King Kong.

Just because you are attracted to a persons body doesn't mean that they are allowed to force themselves on you. To me that's like saying because a woman was attracted to a man it gives him the right to force sex upon her. It's the same thing. Just because the body has an involuntary reaction doesn't mean it's not rape.

I don't see how the character being male makes a rape storyline any more exceptable or any less powerful. The problem is that most writers never want to delve deeply into the issue and thus they take away a powerful aspect of the story.

Just because you are attracted to a persons body doesn't mean that they are allowed to force themselves on you. To me that's like saying because a woman was attracted to a man it gives him the right to force sex upon her. It's the same thing. Just because the body has an involuntary reaction doesn't mean it's not rape. I don't see how the character being male makes a rape storyline any more exceptable or any less powerful. The problem is that most writers never want to delve deeply into the issue and thus they take away a powerful aspect of the story.

That "involuntary reaction" isn't going to come about just because she holds a gun to his head. Therefore it's pretty hard to rape a man in the way they depict on GH. I have a man's body, and I'm pretty sure it's a real hassle without his physical cooperation(if you know what I mean). But GH is going to write it as if this sexual assault was a big success for the perpetrator. Bull. The only way that'll happen is if...

She could sodomize him.

But you and I both know that NO soap will do that. So logic suggests to me that this is creative license gone wild.

That "involuntary reaction" isn't going to come about just because she holds a gun to his head. Therefore it's pretty hard to rape a man in the way they depict on GH. I have a man's body, and I'm pretty sure it's a real hassle without his physical cooperation(if you know what I mean). But GH is going to write it as if this sexual assault was a big success for the perpetrator. Bull. The only way that'll happen is if...

But you and I both know that NO soap will do that. So logic suggests to me that this is creative license gone wild.

No doubt this is a contrived situation, but I guess the point here is that he better cooperate physically because his wife is being threatened if he doesn't.

But what if he just got aroused because Irina is hot or out of a fear reaction? "No" means "no" even when it's a guy and even if he has a woody. What if it were a woman who got physically aroused during rape? Does that mean she wants it? No way.

I consider what's happening to Jax rape because he isn't free to make his own choice. He's being coerced.

Didn't look like rape to me.

really? She tortured, beat him and threatend to kill him and his family if he didnt have sex with her. She had him tied up and forced herself on him. Thats rape

But what if he just got aroused because Irina is hot or out of a fear reaction? "No" means "no" even when it's a guy and even if he has a woody. What if it were a woman who got physically aroused during rape? Does that mean she wants it? No way.

I consider what's happening to Jax rape because he isn't free to make his own choice. He's being coerced.

That's exactly my point. Maybe Jax was attracted to her body. That doesn't mean he is any less of a rape victim in this storyline. Since he was forced into having sex with her. Hell she even chained him up, beat him and then threatened his loved ones.

Edited August 15, 200718 yr by Skin

My point is that in reality, this would probably only be an attempted rape. Since it's too technical and graphic for the show to explain, the audience must fill in the blanks and take it at face value. But I'm not giving in that easily.