Homosexuals should not serve in the military

[Bree]

By PAULINE JELINEK, Associated Press Writer

1 hour, 15 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - A gay advocacy group Tuesday demanded an apology from the Pentagon's top general for calling homosexuality immoral.

In a newspaper interview Monday, Marine Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had likened homosexuality to adultery and said the military should not condone it by allowing gays to serve openly in the armed forces.

"General Pace's comments are outrageous, insensitive and disrespectful to the 65,000 lesbian and gay troops now serving in our armed forces," the advocacy group Servicemembers Legal Defense Network said in a statement on its Web site.

The group has represented some of the thousands dismissed from the military for their sexual orientation.

Pace made his remarks in an interview Monday with the Chicago Tribune. He was responding to a question about the "don't ask, don't tell" policy that allows gays and lesbians to serve if they keep their sexual orientation private and don't engage in homosexual acts.

Pace said he supports the policy, which became law in 1994 and prohibits commanders from asking about a person's sexual orientation.

"I believe homosexual acts between two individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts," Pace was quoted as saying in the newspaper interview. "I do not believe the United States is well served by a policy that says it is OK to be immoral in any way."

Pace, a native of Brooklyn, N.Y., and a 1967 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy, said he based his views on his upbringing.

"As an individual, I would not want (acceptance of gay behavior) to be our policy, just like I would not want it to be our policy that if we were to find out that so-and-so was sleeping with somebody else's wife, that we would just look the other way, which we do not. We prosecute that kind of immoral behavior," he said.

The newspaper said Pace did not address concerns raised by a 2005 government audit that showed some 10,000 troops, including more than 50 specialists in Arabic, have been discharged because of the policy.

Louis Vizcaino, spokesman for the gay rights group Human Rights Campaign, said Pace's comments were "insulting and offensive to the men and women ... who are serving in the military honorably."

"Right now there are men and women that are in the battle lines, that are in the trenches, they're serving their country," Vizcaino said. "Their sexual orientation has nothing to do with their capability to serve in the U.S. military."

"Don't ask, don't tell" was passed by Congress in 1993 after a firestorm of debate in which advocates argued that allowing homosexuals to serve openly would hurt troop morale and recruitment and undermine the cohesion of combat units.

Rep. Martin Meehan, D-Mass., has introduced legislation to change the ban. Meehan introduced a similar bill in 2005 that eventually attracted 122 co-sponsors, including Republican Chris Shays of Connecticut and Independent Bernard Sanders (news, bio, voting record) of Vermont.

John Shalikashvili, the retired Army general who was Joint Chiefs chairman when the policy was adopted, said in January that he has changed his mind on the issue since meeting with gay servicemen.

"These conversations showed me just how much the military has changed, and that gays and lesbians can be accepted by their peers," Shalikashvili wrote in a newspaper opinion piece.

He also cited a new Zogby poll, commissioned by the Michael D. Palm Center at the University of California at Santa Barbara, of 545 U.S. troops who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. Three quarters said they were comfortable around gay men and lesbians; 37 percent opposed allowing gays to serve openly; 26 percent said they should be allowed, and 37 percent were unsure or neutral.

Of those who said they were certain that a member of their unit was gay or lesbian, two-thirds did not believe it hurt morale, according to the poll published in December.

Shalikashvili said he expected fierce debate over gays in the military this year as Congress considers President Bush's call for expanding the size of the Army, which is stretched thin by wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Why does this bother him so much? Here we have these men and women serving our country, risking their lives---and all he cares about is that they're dating people of the same sex? Get over it and worry about more pressing issues in our country, like when this war will finally end. What's going to happen when all those troops Bush wants eventually start going overseas? Will Pace personally see to it that only straight people be sent? It's stupid. Why are other peoples' love lives such a concern for so many in the government?

[Rhiannon]

They were talking about this on The View earlier....It's sad that with all of the things going on in this world, that people like Marine Gen. Peter Pace get their panties in such a twist about people being gay.....It's not like gay people are going away anytime soon, these people need to accept that gay people have been and will always be around; and move on to issues that are actually important.....

[Scotty]

I saw this on the news...I feel sorry for gay people in our military.

I'm not gay myself, but if I were and in the military and was gay I would keep my mouth shut if I were them.

[Rhiannon]

I feel sorry for them too, I just find it sad that it's still such a big issue if a person is gay or not in life in general.....If that makes sense....

[Scotty]

IA...in fact I feel sorry for all gay people when I hear things in the news like this.

[DevotedToAMC]

Then the chairman needs to resign if he cannot handle this. To say they should not serve is discriminatory and wrong and that is why we have "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" (although I disagree with this policy) and really it is nobody's business in the military if someone is gay. They should not be barred from serving their country based on something they cannot help

[David_Vickers]

This so-called General, should have his rank stripped from him and be fired and dishonorably discharged!

[Brandeis]

"Homosexuals should not serve in the military"

They have been since ... the beginning. Why are straight men so stupid?

[Keith]

It probably bug me more if I had any urge to fight for what this country believes in, circa Bush II.

[Marilyn_M]

I've been trying to figure that one out for years. What does a person's sexual orentation have to do with how well they serve their country? What is the next thing he is going to say, anyone that is non-white shouldn't serve in the military? It wouldn't be a shocker if he said that, seeing that garbage.

[Keith]

I work with men who have the same mentality. It's really a sad, sad life.

[Drew]

it's something to keep in mind as a way out if they ever bring the draft back ...

[Drew]

of course I could go on about how immoral this entire war has been ... and how immoral certain troops have already behaved when they didn't think there was a camera nearby ... and how immoral top brass have been when it's come to leaking information about covert CIA operatives ... but it'd just be too easy.

[Q Steph]

I agree. I don't understand this need to gauge one's ability to wage war based on their sexual orientation. But if that's how it's going to be, every guy who wants to avoid a tour should start walking with an extra twitch in their step.

[Brandeis]

If the draft is ever reinstated in this administration the first to see combat will be non whites and gays; don't ask, don't tell will suddenly vaporise. We're already there with convicts being given the option of the military over prison time.